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As someone who ACTUALLY HAS chronic venous insufficiency, may I say

That I have something to expound:

I am a dentist who worked standing up my entire career of essentially 50 years including schooling. When I was about 45-50 I began developing thin varicosities near my ankle of my left foot, likely because I utilized my right foot to activate the pedal for the handpieces and thus leaned heavily to the left. Things were stable until I was 63 years of age and I received an insect bite on my left leg halfway down my shin. My leg acutely swelled up such that I took myself to the ER thinking it might well be a blood clot and the physicians felt the same way.

After multiple tests and sonograms they posited that the insect bite caused my lymphatics to open wide and because I had been, for want of a better word, abusing my leg, all the vessels of my limb were now likely permanently somewhat dilated. Sure enough, my left leg is slightly to somewhat swollen at the end of every day and it is nearly totally relieved in the morning when I awaken. I live with this and accept it: better than many of my comrades who suffer horrendous back pain from sitting and twisting/leaning for decades.

Other than my foot and lower aspect of my ankle, I show no signs of this condition. Now here’s the thing: to render this diagnosis definitively I had the following to rule out more serious illness: weekly leg sonograms for four weeks, treadmill stress test, PET scan stress test, sonogram of my heart, and three or four other tests including blood tests every 90 days. They distinctly informed me that since I had no other symptoms and the tests were essentially negative across the board, that this is LIKELY my diagnosis.
I don’t have ecchymosis of my hands, I don’t have swollen legs bilaterally, I do not have pallor, and I don’t exhibit many of the outward signs and symptoms which President Orangina does. But here’s the point: I eat relatively healthily, am active all day in terms of movement, I am not grossly overweight, I do not need for whatever reason to put makeup on my hands, and people tell me I look well for a male of my genetic background who’s over 70. And yet I have a condition which arguably is relatively minor as things go, but a condition of cardiovascular disease nonetheless.

I am of the absolute near-certain opinion that given the outward visualization of this guy, the docs and the handlers sat down and decided that the absolute most benign condition which could be diagnosed from his appearance alone was chronic venous insufficiency. My considered professional diagnosis after viewing over seventy thousand patients in my career is “No ****ing Way”.
As a coda, please allow me to say that if in fact this were true, then it woukd be the first time in which they told the truth about anything. The odds are low on that score in my estimation.

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And there you have it. A health lecture from this dip shit

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Re: As someone who ACTUALLY HAS chronic venous insufficiency, may I say
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2025, 08:59:44 AM »
Is my math wrong or does that work out to slightly more than 11 patients per day, every day, based on a 5 day work week, for 50 years?

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Re: As someone who ACTUALLY HAS chronic venous insufficiency, may I say
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2025, 09:25:50 AM »
As is often the case with DU, and Democrats in general, I see a lot of speculation and not a lot of evidence. No wonder they are so prone to political miscalculation.

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Re: As someone who ACTUALLY HAS chronic venous insufficiency, may I say
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2025, 10:08:33 AM »
Is my math wrong or does that work out to slightly more than 11 patients per day, every day, based on a 5 day work week, for 50 years?

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Re: As someone who ACTUALLY HAS chronic venous insufficiency, may I say
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2025, 10:33:42 AM »
More like chronic penis insufficiency, amirite?
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Re: As someone who ACTUALLY HAS chronic venous insufficiency, may I say
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2025, 10:53:17 AM »
Being educated in dentistry and looking at 70K mouths has what to with diagnosing somebody else's cardiovascular issues from pictures and articles on The Internet?

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Re: As someone who ACTUALLY HAS chronic venous insufficiency, may I say
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2025, 01:17:09 PM »
As someone famous around these parts once opined: All DUmmies lie. All the time.

A DUchebag claiming to have had an actual job proves they're lying as well.
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Re: As someone who ACTUALLY HAS chronic venous insufficiency, may I say
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2025, 02:19:56 PM »
The smartest guy on DU has been on his feet for 50 years and never thought to save up enough for retirement! May be instead of being a dentist he should’ve been a proctologist! :thatsright: :loser:
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Re: As someone who ACTUALLY HAS chronic venous insufficiency, may I say
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2025, 02:33:11 PM »
Here's an accurate TL;DR version of PCIntern's post:

As one who has chronic venous insufficiency,  :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: I don't want Trump's doctors' diagnosis to be true, therefore I won't believe it.
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Re: As someone who ACTUALLY HAS chronic venous insufficiency, may I say
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2025, 02:45:38 PM »
Is the DUmp aware that if President Trump is removed from office under the 25th amendment, that VP Vance becomes the next President, and not kamala....?
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Re: As someone who ACTUALLY HAS chronic venous insufficiency, may I say
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2025, 03:03:08 PM »
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    As someone who ACTUALLY HAS chronic venous insufficiency, may I say... :blah: :blah: :blah


    • First, Docta Dipshit, the word is spelled V E I N O U S:thatsright:
    • Second; most ACTUAL medical professionals would use the term POOR CIRCULATION to describe the condition you're grasping for. and,
    • Third, DUmp'Rat; she was saying you have a PENIS INSUFFICIENCY, and you of course heard what you wanted to hear.
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    Re: As someone who ACTUALLY HAS chronic venous insufficiency, may I say
    « Reply #11 on: July 19, 2025, 03:33:04 PM »
      • First, Docta Dipshit, the word is spelled V E I N O U S:thatsright:
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      • Second; most ACTUAL medical professionals would use the term POOR CIRCULATION to describe the condition you're grasping for. and,
      • Third, DUmp'Rat; she was saying you have a PENIS INSUFFICIENCY, and you of course heard what you wanted to hear.
        :rotf: :rotf:[/list]

      As I was browsing YouTube yesterday, I saw a video that I thought had the title "Trump diagnosed with Venus Insufficiency". I may have misread it, because I was scrolling through rather quickly, but it wouldn't surprise me if it indeed said that, given that such typos are not that uncommon.

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      « Reply #12 on: July 19, 2025, 11:41:16 PM »
      Is the DUmp aware that if President Trump is removed from office under the 25th amendment, that VP Vance becomes the next President, and not kamala....?

      Not only that, but Veep Vance would be eligible to serve out the rest of Donaldus Magnus' term and then TWO terms of his own.
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      Re: As someone who ACTUALLY HAS chronic venous insufficiency, may I say
      « Reply #13 on: July 21, 2025, 10:57:52 AM »
      Yet all the visible and audio evidence of JoePedo being mentally incapacitated they never mentioned anything. And let's face it if the DUmbass DUches are knowledgeable about anything other than scamming taxpayer benefits it is mental incapacitation.
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      Re: As someone who ACTUALLY HAS chronic venous insufficiency, may I say
      « Reply #14 on: July 22, 2025, 05:02:57 PM »
      CNN Used Fake Doctor for Trump Hit Piece

      https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2025/07/22/cnn-used-fake-doctor-for-trump-hit-piece-n4941998

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      On July 17, 2025, White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt released a memo from President Trump’s physician, Captain Sean P. Barbarella, detailing a routine health check. Trump, now 79, had noticed mild leg swelling, which led to a thorough examination. The diagnosis? Chronic venous insufficiency, a common condition in older adults where leg veins struggle to pump blood back to the heart.

      Barbarella wrote, “Bilateral lower extremity venous Doppler ultrasounds were performed and revealed chronic venous insufficiency, a benign and common condition, particularly in individuals over the age of 70.” No blood clots, no arterial disease, no heart failure — just a minor issue that's easy to manage.

      The report also noted minor bruising on Trump’s hand, likely from his aspirin regimen and enthusiastic handshaking. Hardly a scandal, right?

      But CNN couldn’t resist. It saw an opportunity to spin this into a full-blown health crisis, hoping to undermine Trump’s presidency.

      Enter Chris Pernell, CNN's go-to “medical expert,” who warned that chronic venous insufficiency “is a disease that is progressive.”

      "And what that means is that if there aren't conservative treatments, elevation, compression, medication, if needed, to treat accompanying ulcers or skin changes, it can worsen and actually put a person at risk for deep venous thrombosis,” Pernell said.
      ...
      The problem with the CNN piece is that Pernell isn’t even a practicing doctor. She’s a diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) specialist who hasn’t practiced medicine since her residency. Oh, and she’s an “apostle” at a church whose leader calls Trump “the antichrist” and a “pedophile.”

      Here's what Dr. Chris Pernell has to say about herself, https://www.drchrispernell.com/about.php . I think "fake" is an overstatement, but CNN failed to mention that she has not practiced medicine for a good number of years, possibly not since completing her residency (her webpage gives no dates). IOW, CNN lied, unsurprisingly, by omission.

      This is the website for the "groundbreaking assembly" in which she is a leader, https://www.bethashemyhwh.org/. It appears to be a congregation or an association of several congregations. It is in the majority-black Holiness Pentecostal tradition, with some Faith Movement influence. I don't want to be disrespectful, but the group seems to use certain words in formulaic ways, almost like mantras. Its focus on, almost promotion of, certain leader personalities would be a yellow or orange flag for me, were I considering attending. I did not see any reference on the site to Trump, but I just didn't want to burn time rooting around the site.
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      Re: As someone who ACTUALLY HAS chronic venous insufficiency, may I say
      « Reply #15 on: July 31, 2025, 04:34:50 PM »
      What Ails CNN, No Doctor, Especially This One, Can Cure

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      In a desperate attempt to 'Joe Biden' Donald Trump, Resistance media began to spin all sorts of conspiratorial narratives that Donald Trump was in failing health. He had bruises on his hands that were being covered up, literally and figuratively, by makeup. His ankles were swollen. From PBS to CNN to the network newscasts, the speculation began to grow that the President might not be in the White House very long, because he was in such poor health.
      ...
      Back to CNN, on that same day of Karoline Leavitt's press conference, July 17th, anchors Brianna Keilar and Omar Jiminez spent a segment on the health of the President. This is a television network that boasts as their senior medical correspondent the legendary Sanjay Gupta. Did they go to him for this segment? Nah. They brought in someone else. Meet Dr. Chris Pernell.
      ...
      So instead of completing her residency and going into either private practice or within a physician group, hospital or clinic, she is not a treating physician at all, and may have never been. Instead, the good doctor here appears to be a DEI hire specifically to work on DEI hiring policies and procedures.

      Dr. Pernell's employment at University Hospital was tragically cut short, as Levin reports.

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      Pernell said during an October 2022 appearance on the Karen Hunter Show that she faced multiple compliance probes from hospital leadership, stemming in large part from her public criticism of Trump and Republicans. In 2021, for instance,

      Pernell had resigned from the hospital a month earlier after an intensive and unsuccessful campaign to become CEO. She claimed during her conversation with Hunter that she had been "forced out," blaming her departure on racism.

      ...
      So in addition to being a DEI true believer, she's an anti-Trump nut with delusions of grandeur because they didn't make her the boss. But wait, it gets so much better.

      Pernell is currently employed by the NAACP. Now you might be scratching your head, unaware that the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People had gone into the field of practicing medicine. Fear not. They haven't. Pernell's role? Directing their Center For Health Equity. This is exactly the doctor CNN figured would be the perfect expert to bring to their audience commenting on the vascular health of Donald Trump.

      ...

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      In addition to her work on equity, Pernell has also pursued an ecclesiastical career as an "apostle" of the Bet Hashem YHWH church movement founded by her brother, Timothy Pernell Jr.

      Timothy Pernell Jr. has described white Evangelical Christians as agents of Satan. "White evangelicals call pedophile Trump, anointed, called, chosen, and appointed by Christ," he wrote last week on Facebook.

      "They are SICK !!!!!! Trump is a pedophile and a rapist and an antichrist. White evangelicals have done the work of Satan and attempted to destroyed [sic] America."

      The Pernell's use of the title "Apostle" strains my ability to be respectful, but not because I think there were just 12 Apostles. This may be too far inside Pentecostal-charismatic thinking but here the matter is in brief:

      The twelve Jesus chose minus Judas equals eleven;
      The eleven plus Matthias (Acts chapter 1) equals twelve;
      The twelve of Acts 1 plus Barnabas and Saul (Acts chapter 13) equals fourteen;
      Paul in his epistles referred to several others as "sent", using the Greek word often transliterated into English as "apostle".

      While Paul and other Apostles did occasionally refer to their function, they didn't carry about business cards - literal or metaphorical - identifying themselves as "Apostle ______". So the Pernells' systematic referencing themselves as "Apostle ______" comes across to me as pretentious and presumptuous, at best.

      Back onto the topic of the linked article, the dubious character and qualifications of Dr. Chris Pernell almost force the question: How exactly did CNN find her in her rather obscure corner where victimology, racism, and Pentecostal Christianity intersect?
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