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Too Poor?......No Tax Rebate For You
« on: January 23, 2008, 02:47:38 PM »
This is rather amusing.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2751138

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dajoki  (1000+ posts)       Wed Jan-23-08 03:15 PM
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Too poor? No tax rebate for you!
 Lines drawn on stimulus
By Mike Soraghan and Jessica Holzer
Posted: 01/23/08 12:01 AM
http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/lines-drawn-on-stim...

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It remains unclear whether the $800 tax rebates that have been floated by leaders would include workers who are too poor to pay income tax. At the White House, however, Reid indicated he would push for something aiding lower-income Americans. “We clearly want the American people to benefit, not just one segment of the American people,” he said.

But House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) said the prospect of sending rebates to people who do not pay income taxes would spark a “vigorous argument.” He stopped short, however, of calling it a deal-breaker.
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Gregg said he has aired his concerns about the size of the package with Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.). He also said that giving rebates to workers who pay only Social Security taxes, but not income taxes, is “mind-boggling.”

But the idea got a boost from the director of the Congressional Budget Office (CBO), Peter Orszag, who told the Senate Finance Committee Tuesday that weighting tax relief to poorer families would increase the strength of the stimulus.

Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.) also asked Orszag about the merits of issuing rebates of $400 to individuals and $800 to families, and bonuses to families of $400 per child. Orszag replied that the approach might have a greater impact as long as the bonuses are also available to families who do not pay income taxes.

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thereismore  (1000+ posts)      Wed Jan-23-08 03:21 PM
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1. Sure. Everybody knows that poor people would blow it on alcohol... (sarcasam)


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catmandu57  (1000+ posts)      Wed Jan-23-08 03:31 PM
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10. Well I was going to buy marijuana with mine
 But I'm not going to have to worry about it anyway, no kids, don't pay taxes, I'm an invisible american.


Why is that not suprising

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DJ13 (422 posts)      Wed Jan-23-08 03:21 PM
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2. We just CANT give the money to people most likely to spend it!
 Why thats unAmeri(Rpubli)can!

Bunch of assclowns.

If they (both party's) were really serious about stimulating the economy not only would workers who dont make enough to pay Fed payroll taxes get the money, but they would increase the Social Security payments by another 5-10%.


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Blaze Diem (1000+ posts)       Wed Jan-23-08 03:21 PM
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3. They're gonna **** this up too. Just know it.
 Like everything else.


They really seem to love their Congressional leaders  :lmao:

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alyce douglas  (1000+ posts)     Wed Jan-23-08 03:25 PM
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6. yup, its like * is just throwing us an allowance to shut us up 
 and be glad for small favors, I do not accept handouts, he can take that check and shove it.


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cgrindley  (1000+ posts)       Wed Jan-23-08 03:22 PM
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4. Tax rebates should go to the middle classes
 not the poor. The middle classes. We're the ones who need tax relief the most.


Straying from the hive I see

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LSK  (1000+ posts)       Wed Jan-23-08 03:25 PM
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7. I HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE REPUBLICANS


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DangerDave921 (857 posts)      Wed Jan-23-08 03:33 PM
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11. Rebate 
 If it's a rebate, that means a return of something you already paid. If you didn't pay income tax, there is nothing to rebate. I can't get a rebate from a store where I didn't actually buy a product.

So the term has to be changed if it's going to apply to those who don't pay income tax.


Oh my............

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Blaze Diem (1000+ posts)       Wed Jan-23-08 03:35 PM
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12. I'd take mine straight to the casino..maybe I can double it.
 then I could pay my heating bill for 2 months, or give it to the Indian Gaming profits..ha
Bet right after they issue the rebates, the price of gas will go up. And food, and..and..and..
Damn ****ers.


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semillama  (1000+ posts)      Wed Jan-23-08 03:43 PM
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15. We have a winner!
 Congratulations on applying logic to a DU thread! It doesn't happen as often as it should! 


Seriously, though, any tax rebate like this would likely not result in any noticable stimulus to the economy. It's more like a bribe to get folks to stop complaining. Heck, I wouldn't be stimulating the economy if they handed me a check, because I wouldn't buy anything with the money but apply it to debt. I doubt I'd be the only one.

Any stimulus attached to this sort of rebate would be very short term. To have a realistic positive impact, wages have to increase. That's what will help the most.


That's gonna leave a mark
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Re: Too Poor?......No Tax Rebate For You
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2008, 02:55:08 PM »
From another thread on the Topic

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alyce douglas  (1000+ posts)     Wed Jan-23-08 03:32 PM
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3. signed
 and under comment I said the best stimulus package to Americans would be to start impeachment hearings on these criminals.


Yeah..............can't leave out the Impeachment


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Re: Too Poor?......No Tax Rebate For You
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2008, 02:56:53 PM »
Want a stimulus package?

http://www.fairtax.org
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Re: Too Poor?......No Tax Rebate For You
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2008, 02:57:27 PM »
This "rebate" idea is like taking someone's wallet, removing a $100 bill and then waving it in front of them saying, "Hey look! $100!"

Are they forgetting about the generous refunds that people get via EITC???

Besides, I'm leery of the govt trying to "stimulate" anything. If they were so powerful, then why don't they do it every year? Because it doesn't work!!!
I can see November 2 from my house!!!

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Re: Too Poor?......No Tax Rebate For You
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2008, 02:57:52 PM »
wonder who's mole DangerDave921 is?

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Re: Too Poor?......No Tax Rebate For You
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2008, 03:01:05 PM »
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alyce douglas  (1000+ posts)     Wed Jan-23-08 03:25 PM
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6. yup, its like * is just throwing us an allowance to shut us up 
 and be glad for small favors, I do not accept handouts, he can take that check and shove it.

yeah, sure.  ::)

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Re: Too Poor?......No Tax Rebate For You
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2008, 03:01:40 PM »
This whole giveaway (rebate) bullshit is really just that, bullshit. It's politicians playing to the lowest common denominator, mainly people who vote for the Democrat Party. The economy needs a fix, not a f'n band-aid over a sucking chest wound. This is the type of arrogance that is becoming more and more common in Washington. It's as if "Idiocracy" is coming to fruition. Don't piss down my leg and tell me it's raining.  :whatever:
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Re: Too Poor?......No Tax Rebate For You
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2008, 03:09:27 PM »
This whole giveaway (rebate) bullshit is really just that, bullshit. It's politicians playing to the lowest common denominator, mainly people who vote for the moonbat Party. The economy needs a fix, not a f'n band-aid over a sucking chest wound. This is the type of arrogance that is becoming more and more common in Washington. It's as if "Idiocracy" is coming to fruition. Don't piss down my leg and tell me it's raining.  :whatever:

And stop taking too much money from Peter just so you can change everbody else's name to Paul.