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Kaiser Family Foundation says, 'We can no longer say this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated'

For the first time since the beginning of the pandemic, a majority of Americans dying from the coronavirus were at least partially vaccinated, according to a new analysis of federal and state data.

The waning efficacy of COVID-19 vaccines and increasingly contagious strains of the virus being spread to elderly and immunocompromised people have resulted in more deaths among those who have taken at least one vaccine dose, a Washington Post analysis published Wednesday finds.

"Fifty-eight percent of coronavirus deaths in August were people who were vaccinated or boosted," the Post reported.

The paper described a "troubling trend" as the share of deaths of people who were vaccinated has been "steadily rising" over the past year.

https://www.foxnews.com/health/vaccinated-americans-a-majority-of-covid-deaths-for-first-time-in-august-analysis

But don't tell Caryn Johnson/aka Whoopi

"The View" co-host Whoopi Goldberg slammed critics of Dr. Anthony Fauci on Wednesday after having COVID-19, saying it "will kill you."

Fauci addressed White House reporters on Tuesday as he prepares to step down from his government post, where he reiterated people should get vaccinated and boosted, in addition to considering testing for the virus before gathering for Thanksgiving. Goldberg grew heated after playing the clip.

"Now that suggestion set… people’s heads exploded from outrage," Goldberg said. "A lot of conservatives who posted about how much they hate Dr. Fauci, that they would rather get Covid than ever test again — let me explain something to you as somebody who’s just come off it again. And not a nice, light, you know, because I came off a tough a-- [COVID diagnosis], OK? You don’t want to get this. It’s not funny. You don’t want this. This will kill you! What’s the matter with you people?"

Co-host Joy Behar said the reason COVID-19 did not kill Goldberg, who tested positive for the virus last week for a second time, was because she was boosted.

"If you are not boosted, you could die. That’s the point. People write on Twitter or someplace, ‘You see? Whoopi got it, and she has the vaccinations.’ Yeah, but Whoopi's sitting there. She’s not in a casket, thank you," Behar said.
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Re: Vaccinated Americans a majority of COVID deaths for first time in August
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2022, 06:35:49 PM »
The data from California, https://covid19.ca.gov/state-dashboard/#postvax-status .

The "Deaths" tab shows that the deaths per million of unvaccinated people is 3 1/3 times greater than the deaths per million of vaccinated people.

The "Hospitalizations" tab shows the the hospitalizations per million of unvaccinated people is almost 3 times greater than the hospitalizations per million of vaccinated people.

I don't know where Fox got the data to support their claim, but the reverse is true, dramatically so, in a state that is ~10% of the US' population. I looked for similar differentiated data for the states of Kansas, Nebraska, and Texas but did not find it.
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Re: Vaccinated Americans a majority of COVID deaths for first time in August
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2022, 07:26:38 PM »
The data from California, https://covid19.ca.gov/state-dashboard/#postvax-status .

The "Deaths" tab shows that the deaths per million of unvaccinated people is 3 1/3 times greater than the deaths per million of vaccinated people.

The "Hospitalizations" tab shows the the hospitalizations per million of unvaccinated people is almost 3 times greater than the hospitalizations per million of vaccinated people.

I don't know where Fox got the data to support their claim, but the reverse is true, dramatically so, in a state that is ~10% of the US' population. I looked for similar differentiated data for the states of Kansas, Nebraska, and Texas but did not find it.

Pete, I admire you like an older brother or uncle, but apparently you didn't notice that it wasn't Fox News that did the study. It was the non-partisan Kaiser Family Foundation using actual data. And they certainly don't have a political axe to grind.
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Re: Vaccinated Americans a majority of COVID deaths for first time in August
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2022, 07:40:15 PM »
The data from California, https://covid19.ca.gov/state-dashboard/#postvax-status .

The "Deaths" tab shows that the deaths per million of unvaccinated people is 3 1/3 times greater than the deaths per million of vaccinated people.

The "Hospitalizations" tab shows the the hospitalizations per million of unvaccinated people is almost 3 times greater than the hospitalizations per million of vaccinated people.

I don't know where Fox got the data to support their claim, but the reverse is true, dramatically so, in a state that is ~10% of the US' population. I looked for similar differentiated data for the states of Kansas, Nebraska, and Texas but did not find it.

I don't trust a gawddammed thing off a government website.

So, yeah... sure.
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Re: Vaccinated Americans a majority of COVID deaths for first time in August
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2022, 08:52:15 PM »
I don't trust a gawddammed thing off a government website.

So, yeah... sure.

So hundreds of government employees, hundreds of California hospitals and tens of thousands of doctors, nurses, and medical information specialists are in a grand conspiracy? The Cave lacks the :rotf: s and :lmao: s and :mental: s to express how absurd that is.
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Re: Vaccinated Americans a majority of COVID deaths for first time in August
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2022, 09:18:06 PM »
So hundreds of government employees, hundreds of California hospitals and tens of thousands of doctors, nurses, and medical information specialists are in a grand conspiracy? The Cave lacks the :rotf: s and :lmao: s and :mental: s to express how absurd that is.

Russian collusion.

Tell me again how our government would never lie.
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Re: Vaccinated Americans a majority of COVID deaths for first time in August
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2022, 07:49:39 AM »
Irrelevant. Are and facts and sources that contradict what you want to believe, "Prog-Wing"?
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Re: Vaccinated Americans a majority of COVID deaths for first time in August
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2022, 07:59:46 AM »
Pete, I admire you like an older brother or uncle, but apparently you didn't notice that it wasn't Fox News that did the study. It was the non-partisan Kaiser Family Foundation using actual data. And they certainly don't have a political axe to grind.

Kaiser Foundation hospitals are all over California, and Kaiser hospitals are among the sources for the California data. IOW, their "study" is contradicted by data that, in part, came from Kaiser hospitals. I won't speculate about the motives of those who did the "study", I just know their conclusion is contradicted, in California at least, by data from hundreds of hospitals.
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Re: Vaccinated Americans a majority of COVID deaths for first time in August
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2022, 08:46:32 AM »
I’m still not vaccinated and see no reason to be vaccinated. It doesn’t matter what any studies show. Until I see the vaccinated are not getting sick AND passing it along, what is the point?

Does it really matter if you contract it from a vaccinated person or an unvaccinated person?  You still get it and it’s no different.

Anyone want to dispute that?

KC
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Re: Vaccinated Americans a majority of COVID deaths for first time in August
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2022, 11:20:12 AM »
So hundreds of government employees, hundreds of California hospitals and tens of thousands of doctors, nurses, and medical information specialists are in a grand conspiracy? The Cave lacks the :rotf: s and :lmao: s and :mental: s to express how absurd that is.

It is how "AGW " rolls. If there is trillions to be made and govt control over the sheep to be had, you can be sure EVERYONE goes along with it.
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Re: Vaccinated Americans a majority of COVID deaths for first time in August
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2022, 01:56:40 PM »
I’m still not vaccinated and see no reason to be vaccinated. It doesn’t matter what any studies show. Until I see the vaccinated are not getting sick AND passing it along, what is the point?

Does it really matter if you contract it from a vaccinated person or an unvaccinated person?  You still get it and it’s no different.

Anyone want to dispute that?

KC

Not me. Of course, the narrative has shifted some. While touting the jab as a guarantee you won't get sick (and finding that claim completely false), the pushers now like to claim you may get Covid -- you just won't get it quite so bad as someone who didn't get the jab.

Uh huh. Tell me another story.

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