The CPAC stage is in the shape of a Nordic rune used by Hitler's SS & white supr

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highplainsdem (33,299 posts)
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The CPAC stage is in the shape of a Nordic rune used by Hitler's SS & white supremacists

 

Matt Separa
@MattSepara
CPAC not even trying very hard to hide the fascist references anymore. This is an Odal rune, which was co-opted by the Nazis and is emblematic in far right wing and neo-nazi parties, including the National Socialist Movement in the US.

Fiendish Thingy (6,384 posts)

1. This sure as hell better get some coverage on the news tonight...nt

Star Member Mike 03 (16,394 posts)

3. Oh wow

Thanks to the alert people who spotted this.

If Paddy Chayefsky put what we are seeing in a screenplay for a political movie made in the 70s it would have been called daring, brilliant and biting satire. But this is just getting too real and too scary.

Star Member Beakybird (2,148 posts)

5. Oh my ****ing God!

rickyhall (3,036 posts)

6. I am watching Sleepy Hollow tv series reruns on Hulu & evil demons used that very same rune.

Coincidence?

 

TlalocW (13,675 posts)

7. Eh, I think this is a stretch

I mean, the typical Bubba and Bubbette going to CPAC are there to hate gays safely with others of like mind. Bubba's not going to nudge Bubbette and whisper, "Look at the stage!" and she's not going to get it if he did. While I'm sure there are infinite designs for a stage, that's probably a smaller number for practical "cool" stages for that particular space. Besides, what secret message are they sending? That they're racist fascists? Everyone already knows that.

TlalocW

 

Star Member Brother Buzz (28,906 posts)

15. On one level, you're correct, but....

it's a HUGE dog whistle for a boatload of miscreants.

malaise (225,267 posts)

21. And deliberately so

It's offensive on steroids

 

Star Member hatrack (52,505 posts)

17. Not at all - it's about showing that they don't care if we know what they are

It's all they have left, and this choice of design was deliberate. A stage is a stage is a stage, but somebody went out of their way to use this design

They've been pegging the needle ever farther to the right for decades now. And eventually, as with heroin addiction, you need ever-bigger doses of "**** YOU LIBTARDS!!!" to tickle the funnybones of the hateful inbred cracker voters they seek.

This fills that need, and then some.

unblock (48,645 posts)

23. If it were an isolated incident, maybe it could have been accidental

On rare occasions, a democratic politician or campaign somewhere will accidentally use some offensive symbol. It gets called out, someone has to apologize, maybe a staffer gets fired, and it's fixed and done.

But it's different when it's done by party or related organization that traffics in this sort of symbolism all the damn time.

Right-wingers have a long history of using offensive symbols then pretending it was unintentional or that they had no idea. Again and again and again and again.

These people are fascists and some of their members and supporters are overtly fascist and even overtly nazis/neo-nazis. So a nazi symbol is featured prominently and we're supposed to think it's an accident?

Please.

movingviolation (192 posts)

8. Between the Odal Rune shaped stage and golden trump big boy statue...

I'm left to wonder why they just don't clone hitler.

moondust (16,725 posts)

9. No accident.

I'm pretty sure NOBODY would accidentally stumble upon that design and decide to use it rather than some other, simpler stage design.

Star Member frazzled (17,922 posts)

24. Not just some accidental stage design


Flag of the Volksdeutsche 7th SS Volunteer Mountain Division Prinz Eugen.


Insignias of the 7th SS Volunteer Mountain Division Prinz Eugen and the 23rd SS Volunteer Panzer Grenadier Division Nederland.
The rendition of the Odal rune with wings or feet (serifs) was the emblem of ethnic Germans (Volksdeutsche) of the 7th SS Volunteer Mountain Division Prinz Eugen operating during World War II in the Nazi Germany-sponsored Independent State of Croatia. This rendition has been used by the Neo-Nazi Wiking-Jugend in Germany, and in South Africa by the Anglo-Afrikaner Bond, the Boeremag, the Blanke Bevrydingsbeweging,[5] and the Italian neo-fascist group National Vanguard. This particular rendition has no historical significance outside of Nazi Germany. Because of its Nazi associations, Strafgesetzbuch 86a bans any usage of the Odal rune as with most other symbols if used in a Neo-Nazi context.

Another version with arrows on the end was used by the 23rd SS Volunteer Panzer Grenadier Division Nederland.

Star Member AKwannabe (4,131 posts)

29. ****

That can’t be coincidence!

There is no bottom!
This is the DU member formerly known as Wawannabe.

Star Member LetMyPeopleVote (92,036 posts)

31. Who is surprised by this?

trump supporters are all Nazis

This is the DU member formerly known as Gothmog.

Star Member colorado_ufo (4,593 posts)

39. When I saw them setting up the CPAC name and star on a red background, it immediately reminded me of

Russia. Then the "golden (and fatted) Trump calf." Now this.

Aussie105 (2,397 posts)

40. Stands to reason.

Both the historic German Nazis and the current American Nazis were/are desperate to find some legitimate and heroic anchor for their evil intent in past mythology.

What 'better' than Nordic symbolism?

Bent minds will like it, sane people will go . . . . nah, that's a bridge I'm not prepared to cross.

May Thor strike them all down!
Today would be nice!

But at least with them all gathering like that, it makes it easy to identify who the bent minds are.
Just photograph them, identify, publish their names please FBI!

Star Member TNNurse (5,120 posts)

47. I feel sure that the majority of the people there are too ignorant to know this.

But someone who was in on the planning certainly did.

 

[SVPete]

Looks like a practical stage layout to me. Two entrances, areas to the side of each for groups to come together and direct paths to the podium for each entrance.

That assumes the picture isn't a fauxtoshop.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

So...

...not Christians.

[I_B_Perky]

Dummy got it from this tweet:

https://twitter.com/dailybeanspod/status/1365395991591985152?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Third comment on the tweet is: 

I Think you need a walk in the park

Dummie would be well advised to do the same.

[SVPete]

A long walk off a short pier would be preferable.

[DLR Pyro]

Fiendish Thingy (6,384 posts)

1. This sure as hell better get some coverage on the news tonight...nt

or what?

[SVPete]

Fiendish Thingy (6,384 posts)

1. This sure as hell better get some coverage on the news tonight...nt

Plus or minus Madcow or Marionette Joe, how'd that work out? Did any MSM skews show feature that silliness?

[Zathras]

Umm, if the stage was intended to be the nordic rune as the DUmbasses claim, why is it upside down? As usual the primitive scum residents of Skinner Island are seeing things that are not there because of their hatred and intolerance.

[thundley4]

Umm, if the stage was intended to be the nordic rune as the DUmbasses claim, why is it upside down? As usual the primitive scum residents of Skinner Island are seeing things that are not there because of their hatred and intolerance.

It's a well known fact that dogs will hear dog whistles. That is why Democrats seem to find racism everywhere they look.

[YupItsMe]

Damn them clever Dummies are on to us.   

[SVPete]

Hope they don't discover the secret identity of our Rune Master!





That would rune everything!  

[SVPete]

Leftists Cook Up Crazed Fever Dream to See Nazi Symbolism at CPAC

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/tyler-o-neil/2021/02/27/leftists-cook-up-crazed-fever-dream-to-see-nazi-symbolism-at-cpac-n1428923

Leftists are convinced that the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) is a nefarious conclave of secret Nazis plotting an insurrection. Many activists on Twitter have seized on the shape of the CPAC stage at the Hyatt Regency in Orlando, Fla., claiming it is shaped like a secret rune to cater to Neo-Nazis. Partially for this reason, activists have demanded that Hyatt Hotels stop hosting this “hateful” confab. Hyatt rightly stood up to this absurd cancel push.
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Even the connection to this symbol is extremely tenuous. The CPAC stage looks slightly like the inverse of the symbol, but it seems organizers set up a stage for multiple speakers and panels, as CPAC has hosted this week. In previous years, CPAC stages have often had two wings on the right and left, with two pathways by which speakers enter the stage. The wings allow for multiple panelists on either side of the stage.

Matt Schlapp, chair of the American Conservative Union (ACU), which organizes CPAC, definitively debunked this absurd conspiracy theory.

“Stage design conspiracies are outrageous and slanderous,” Schlapp tweeted. “We have a long standing commitment to the Jewish community. Cancel culture extremists must address antisemitism within their own ranks. CPAC proudly stands with our Jewish allies, including those speaking from this stage.”

So it was, as I guessed, simply a practical stage layout for entrances an exits, and for groups.

[DLR Pyro]

Leftists Cook Up Crazed Fever Dream to See Nazi Symbolism at CPAC

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/tyler-o-neil/2021/02/27/leftists-cook-up-crazed-fever-dream-to-see-nazi-symbolism-at-cpac-n1428923

So it was, as I guessed, simply a practical stage layout for entrances an exits, and for groups.

Yes, but in a DUmmies head that will bring to mind  thoughts of Greman efficiency  and  engineering and with the Germans in the mix, nazis can't be far behind...

[DUmpDiver]

And Mr. Potato Head is Hitler!

[SVPete]

There's one other practical aspect I didn't initially recognize, though it should have been obvious. Those red lines that supposedly form most of the "rune" in real life show speakers who are walking to the podium and/or are pacing the stage where the edge of the stage is, so they don't fall off. IOW, those red lines are basic safety, not crypto-Nazi writing.

[enslaved1]

    Leftists are convinced that the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) is a nefarious conclave of secret Nazis plotting an insurrection. Many activists on Twitter have seized on the shape of the CPAC stage at the Hyatt Regency in Orlando, Fla., claiming it is shaped like a secret rune to cater to Neo-Nazis. Partially for this reason, activists have demanded that Hyatt Hotels stop hosting this “hateful” confab. Hyatt rightly stood up to this absurd cancel push.

   

Don't show those racist leftists all the swazis that adorn many Hindu temples and artifacts.  They will either go to war with India or their heads will pop.  Then again....

[SVPete]

Kaboom! https://hotair.com/archives/allahpundit/2021/03/03/design-firm-actually-designed-cpacs-nazi-symbol-stage-not-acu/

[J P Sousa]

How come DUmmies don't get thrown off social media for advancing conspiracy theories ? 

[ADsOutburst]

Kaboom! https://hotair.com/archives/allahpundit/2021/03/03/design-firm-actually-designed-cpacs-nazi-symbol-stage-not-acu/

I had a lurking suspicion that this was a set-up by someone trying to make CPAC look bad. That may have been a little paranoid of me and not the designer's actual intent, but it appears I was at least correct in that it wasn't CPAC who were ultimately responsible for the design.

[DLR Pyro]

How come DUmmies don't get thrown off social media for advancing conspiracy theories ? 

because...

[Ptarmigan]

highplainsdem (33,299 posts)
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The CPAC stage is in the shape of a Nordic rune used by Hitler's SS & white supremacists

CPAC’s ‘Nazi Rune’ Stage Designed By A Liberal Company Which Has Worked For Biden, MSNBC
https://thenationalpulse.com/breaking/cpac-nazi-rune-stage-lie-falls-apart/

Despite Democrats and the mainstream media insisting the Conservative Political Action Conference designed its stage to resemble Nazi insignia, the company responsible for its creation revealed it “had no idea that the design resembled any symbol” and has worked for Joe Biden and MSNBC in the past.

The company – Design Foundry – told Forward it “had no idea that the design resembled any symbol, nor was there any intention to create something that did.”

“The designs, renderings, drawings, specifications, materials and other documents used or created as part of the proposal are owned by Design Foundry,” the contract reads.

The statement comes days after mainstream media outlets and left-wing Twitter activists slammed the conference for intentionally designing a stage to depict a Nazi rune, as outlets ran stories like “Nod or blunder? No CPAC 2021 apology for a stage shaped like a white supremacist symbol” and “CPAC veers into neo-Nazi fantasy: Was it deliberate? That hardly matters.”

Design Foundry was the one that designed the CPAC 2021 logo. They did it for MSNBC and Joe Biden.