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Offline dutch508

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Should they impeach or should they not?
« on: September 12, 2019, 05:45:58 PM »
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kentuck (93,144 posts)
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Should they impeach or should they not?

Nancy Pelosi is correct - it would divide the country.

But, the country will be divided so long as Trump is the President, whether or not there is an impeachment. That is not a good reason to not impeach Donald Trump.

The other excuse is political. Many of the new Democrats elected in the last election come from previously red districts and they do not wish to gamble with an impeachment hearing.

So they are stuck in the middle. The Judiciary Committee has voted to call witnesses but many doubt if they are serious about the investigation. We shall see in the next two or three weeks.

They simply cannot decide. It is a dilemma for them. We will not know for sure if it is an historical blunder until after the next election? They say they are looking for the facts. Some ask, how many more facts do they need?

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Star Member The Velveteen Ocelot (74,432 posts)

1. As far as I'm concerned,

they can go ahead and impeach the ****er, and then when the GOP senate doesn't convict him they can equate them to an all-white jury in Mississippi in the '50s acquitting a white man accused of killing a black man (thanks to Richard Painter for the analogy).

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6. They are fearful and not confident they can carry the argument.

There is no easy answer.

However, I agree with you that they could credibly blame Republicans if they refused to convict. After all, he is an unindicted co-conspirator in a pay-off scheme to keep women quiet just before the election. He may have lost if they had not been paid off and had gone public just before the election. Also, it has been known to everyone since day one that Donald Trump is violating the emoluments clause of the Constitution.

Now, we hear that he is making money off our military staying at his golf club in Scotland. Also, he lied about not doing business with Russia.

All this and about eight or ten charges of obstruction of justice. Why would any Democrat be fearful of prosecuting that argument?

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Star Member malaise (195,222 posts)

5. ITTMF

Now!

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8. Conduct a public investigation

Develop the record and show the public what Trump has done wrong. Yes, it will take time. Yes, some people will stand by Trump come hell or high water. Yes, some people will whine about how boring it all is. Yes, there are other things the House would like to get done. Yes, Donald Trump will tweet mean things at you.

Get over it. There's too much at stake. If you do your job right, you'll practically guarantee another blue wave in 2020.


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9. If "The public isn't there on impeachment" then LEAD them to it Speaker Pelosi

She is currently the highest elected Democrat and the leader/face of our party. If not her, then who is supposed to be trying to move public opinion?

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Re: Should they impeach or should they not?
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2019, 07:50:40 AM »
This may surprise the DUmmies, but I'm totally in favor of impeachment.

Once you have identified and proven the high crimes and misdemeanors that President Trump is guilty of.
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Re: Should they impeach or should they not?
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2019, 08:51:26 AM »
Meh ... I hope the House Dems impeach Trump. It'd be one of the stooooooopidist things they could possibly do. The Senate would smack them down, and then the voters almost certainly would smack them down.
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Re: Should they impeach or should they not?
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2019, 09:23:37 AM »
This may surprise the DUmmies, but I'm totally in favor of impeachment.

Once you have identified and proven the high crimes and misdemeanors that President Trump is guilty of.

My question being:

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…..how many more facts do they need?.....

what facts do we have so far?  List them, please.
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Re: Should they impeach or should they not?
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2019, 07:20:41 PM »
Nan’s problem is, she may not have the votes to send it to the Senate.

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Re: Should they impeach or should they not?
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2019, 10:22:55 PM »
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Now, we hear that he is making money off our military staying at his golf club in Scotland. ...

The current deal for refueling USAF plane in Scotland was signed in 2015. Who was President in 2015? Womp! Womp!
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