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While NC Dems were at 9-11 ceremony GOP ratfu*ks override budget veto.
 

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In a surprise move Wednesday morning, the N.C. House of Representatives voted to override Gov. Roy Cooper’s veto of the state budget with just over half of the 120 members present to vote.

Democrats in the chamber objected to the bill being brought up, saying they were told there would be no votes during the 8:30 a.m. session and that it was just a formality so work could begin. Rep. Jason Saine, a Lincolnton Republican, made the motion to reconsider the state budget and chaos in the chamber quickly ensued.

House Speaker Tim Moore, a Kings Mountain Republican, said that announcement was not made, and even asked the House Clerk to back him up. That prompted an outburst from Rep. Deb Butler, D-New Hanover.

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article234962017.html?fbclid=IwAR3aedhzWteSl1abgKzjSPPgO5mnqKYnzrWctY0ftRwESrabagcAr-O55aM

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1. NCGOP planned to attack the state's democracy on 9-11. Impeach Moore.

Timothy BinLaden Moore

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3. 9/11 patriots, republicans are not.

You got that right. They're just ratf*ckers.

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4. The Cons always find a way to **** us over

https://www.npr.org/2019/06/24/735413213/for-days-oregon-republicans-are-on-the-lam-over-a-climate-bill

Republican state Senators in Oregon have refused to show up for work since Thursday. That same day, Democratic Gov. Kate Brown authorized state police to track down and return Republicans to the state Capitol in Salem.


https://hillreporter.com/schumer-makes-deal-with-mcconnell-allowing-15-more-conservative-judges-to-be-appointed-10299


https://www.axios.com/mcconnell-blocking-garland-most-consequential-thing-ive-ever-done--fe901fd4-fa74-42ac-b495-ded20d9fd992.html

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5. I'm so disgusted and angry and flabbergasted, and I Really hate my state!

I've been following this most of the day. Finally a thread I can vent on.

‘A New Low’: NC Republicans Override Governor’s Veto While Dems Attended 9/11 Ceremony
https://lawandcrime.com

Many news sites reporting on it as the day goes on. The above article says it won't go over well with the 3 judge court that was giving them a chance for bipartisan redistricting.

Let's hope they screwed themselves worse than they did folks of NC.

Shows what liars and cheaters they are.

And why weren't they at 9/11 ceremonies?... because they're TRAITORS!

And they planned this. Shame on them. And they're proud of it.

Can this be brought to state supreme court? Violation of trust, responsibility, decency?

Also shows what lengths they will go to in order to win. Very bad sign!
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Re: While NC Dems were at 9-11 ceremony GOP ratfu*ks override budget veto.
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2019, 07:52:05 PM »
Just using the rules that the demofascists have put in place.

Well done North Carolina GOP.  Well done.
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Re: While NC Dems were at 9-11 ceremony GOP ratfu*ks override budget veto.
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2019, 09:15:13 PM »
Had this been reversed the headline of the OP would have been; BRILLIANT!  Dems showed the repukes how to get it done!!

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Re: While NC Dems were at 9-11 ceremony GOP ratfu*ks override budget veto.
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2019, 09:22:31 PM »
Had this been reversed the headline of the OP would have been; BRILLIANT!  Dems showed the repukes how to get it done!!

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Re: While NC Dems were at 9-11 ceremony GOP ratfu*ks override budget veto.
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2019, 10:01:33 PM »
Had this been reversed the headline of the OP would have been; BRILLIANT!  Dems showed the repukes how to get it done!!

KC

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Re: While NC Dems were at 9-11 ceremony GOP ratfu*ks override budget veto.
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2019, 06:23:40 AM »
Are these the same clinical morons who had no issue with the NY State SAFE ACT being passed in the middle of the night with no debate?
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« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2019, 08:26:30 AM »
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4. The Cons always find a way to **** us over

https://www.npr.org/2019/06/24/735413213/for-days-oregon-republicans-are-on-the-lam-over-a-climate-bill

Republican state Senators in Oregon have refused to show up for work since Thursday. That same day, Democratic Gov. Kate Brown authorized state police to track down and return Republicans to the state Capitol in Salem.

Right now I'm vividly recalling your absolute outrage, dustyscamp, that you were screaming out in 2011 when the Flee-bagger Wisconsin Dem representatives went and camped out in Illinois to thwart work in the Wisconsin assembly by denying them a quorum...oh, wait...you didn't actually DO that, did you, you flaming hypocrite!
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Re: While NC Dems were at 9-11 ceremony GOP ratfu*ks override budget veto.
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2019, 09:27:13 AM »
Right now I'm vividly recalling your absolute outrage, dustyscamp, that you were screaming out in 2011 when the Flee-bagger Wisconsin Dem representatives went and camped out in Illinois to thwart work in the Wisconsin assembly by denying them a quorum...oh, wait...you didn't actually DO that, did you, you flaming hypocrite!


I vividly remember DU being absolutely orgasmic when the democrats fled Texas so prevent a vote on something they didn't like.  It was a "master stroke!"

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Re: While NC Dems were at 9-11 ceremony GOP ratfu*ks override budget veto.
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2019, 12:46:24 PM »
Right now I'm vividly recalling your absolute outrage, dustyscamp, that you were screaming out in 2011 when the Flee-bagger Wisconsin Dem representatives went and camped out in Illinois to thwart work in the Wisconsin assembly by denying them a quorum...oh, wait...you didn't actually DO that, did you, you flaming hypocrite!
Did somebody say WISCONSIN???! lest we never forget....
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Re: While NC Dems were at 9-11 ceremony GOP ratfu*ks override budget veto.
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2019, 01:50:07 PM »
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This is how fake news spreads like wildfire. NC Gov. Roy Cooper (D) claimed #ncga Dems "were attending a 9/11 memorial event" during vote, the @washingtonpost's @lateshiabeachum runs with it uncritically. But a reporter in NC did the digging & discovered it wasn't true.  #ncpol

it was all lies...

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Not only weren’t most of the Dems at a 9/11 event (one was), they were actually redrawing maps, in what may have been a violation of the law.

As I wrote Wednesday, the New York Times got taken to the woodshed over how they initially portrayed the 18th anniversary of 9/11 as a day where “airplanes took aim” at the World Trade Center. It was an utterly shameless Ilhan Omar-esque take on the terror attacks that killed nearly 3,000 innocent people after terrorists took aim at the Twin Towers by way of hijacking two planes.

Unfortunately the Times was not the only national newspaper who played fast and loose with the facts on 9/11.

The Washington Post published a report Wednesday afternoon on an incident that happened in the North Carolina state legislature involving a veto override done by House Republicans at the start of the day, and outraged Democrats who melted down on the House floor claiming they were lied to about there being “no votes” scheduled on the calendar.

Whether NC House Dems were “lied to” is a separate (and untrue) argument that I won’t get into in this piece. Instead, we’ll focus on how the paper bogusly framed the issue in falsely painting the Republicans in the most unflattering light possible. This led to other national news outlets like CBS and left wing publications/commentators like the Daily Beast, “NowThis News”, and MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow spreading a story that in reality provides us with a classic example of fake news spreading like wildfire.

In the WaPo’s initial story, the headline read something to the effect of “North Carolina Republicans Overrode Budget Veto While Democrats Were at 9/11 Ceremony.” I didn’t get a screen grab of it, but you can see from the URL that’s it’s pretty close to what they had originally.

Reporter Lateshia Beachum started the story off by writing that “While North Carolina Democrats were remembering lives lost on September 11, 2001, their Republican colleagues took advantage of their absence by…” The screen cap of her original report is below:

https://www.redstate.com/sister-toldjah/2019/09/12/fake-news-exposed-washington-post-gets-busted-attempting-bogus-911-smear-nc-house-republicans/



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Instead of doing actual journalism by way of independently verifying the claim that NC House Democrats were en masse out solemnly attending 9/11 remembrances while Republicans overrode a veto, Beachum ran with Cooper’s claim uncritically. You can see it by the original headline used, and by how she framed the first two paragraphs.

By reading what she initially reported, you’d think Republicans underhandedly used the 18th anniversary of 9/11 to upstage Democrats after a months-long budget stalemate.

CBS News also ran with it after reporting that a local news media outlet (WTVD) said “many Democrats were at 9/11 commemoration events.” Except there was no such claim in WTVD’s reporting other Cooper’s claim.

“NowThis News” ran with this framing in a tweet that has well over 20,000 retweets as of this writing, and which has been retweeted by liberal comedian Sarah Silverman and actress Alyssa Milano among others. Rachel Maddow ran with this framing (nearly 7,000 RTs). The Daily Beast ran with the framing as well.

The only problem? It’s not true.

North Carolina journalist Colin Campbell, who writes for the Raleigh News and Observer and other local publications, noted in a tweet yesterday that in reality only one House Democrat had attended a 9/11 ceremony:



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In fact, numerous other Democrats were indeed working at the state legislature on 9/11 instead of attending remembrances. Yesterday was not a national holiday and there were bills on the calendar for reconsideration among other important state issues that were being addressed by legislators in both parties.

Another News and Observer journalist noted that audio from Tuesday’s session confirmed votes would be taken on 9/11:



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For whatever people think about Republicans overriding the veto itself without all members present (it can be done and has been done in the past – by House Democrats when they had control of the state House), the erroneous reporting done by the Washington Post set off a chain reaction of other websites running with the same fake news about how Democrats “were away” at 9/11 ceremonies when they really weren’t



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Usually here in North Carolina it’s the local political media we have to watch out for when it comes to spreading fake news. This time around it was the national media with local news reporters (to my pleasant surprise) correcting them.

The damage has already been done, but nevertheless the truth should be put out there for the record.


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Re: While NC Dems were at 9-11 ceremony GOP ratfu*ks override budget veto.
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2019, 02:40:45 PM »
Yep, DU-folk got hoovered by fake news, as usual:

WaPo: “Clarification”: On Second Thought, Maybe The NC GOP Didn’t Exploit 9/11 Memorial To Override Cooper Veto

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It certainly sounded like a sexy story when the Washington Post first published it. Midday yesterday, the North Carolina legislature’s lower house voted to override Gov. Roy Cooper’s budget veto, helped in part by some missing Democrats on the floor. Where were those representatives? Here’s what the Post initially reported:

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North Carolina Republicans overrode a budget veto while Democrats were at a 9/11 ceremony

How many North Carolina House Democrats were at a 9/11 ceremony at the time? Er … one, as the Raleigh News-Observer reported, as well as Cooper himself, who obviously doesn’t get a vote:

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Some headlines suggested that Democrats were at events commemorating the 9/11 attacks — the vote was taken at roughly the same time as the national moment of silence. But The News & Observer has confirmed only two Democrats attended 9/11 events.

Where were the other Democrats? No one knows, but they weren’t tied up at memorial events. They accused Republicans of breaking the rules, but the News-Observer reports that the GOP did not break any rules in holding the vote — and that vote had been telegraphed for a while. Republicans had been listing the override on the daily calendar every day, including yesterday.

Did the WashPost lie? Or did they simply get hoovered by a liar telling them something they wanted to hear?
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