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Offline dutch508

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Because I'm not stupid.
« on: August 27, 2019, 08:33:53 PM »
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Because I'm not stupid.
That was my answer when one of the white people at a very white get-together, surprised to hear me defend Hillary Clinton against a smear, asked me "You're a Democrat??!!! Really? Why?"

I'm keeping it simple these days.

 :yawn: Did you yell at them and call them all racists? That will help you turn all the other white people into democrats.

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Star Member BigmanPigman (28,954 posts)

1. You are nicer than I am.

 :yawn:

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Star Member elleng (91,855 posts)

2. Please try engaging in informed and polite dialog, when such circumstances present themselves.

No- DU and the leftists are sure if you just act like an ass long enough you'll turn voters to their side.

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Star Member lunatica (43,235 posts)

4. Nope. It doesn't help. Stupid is stupid. You can’t fix it.

 :whatever:

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Star Member uponit7771 (57,767 posts)

8. Unless there was something pithy and sharp there was going to change no minds in that setting... that's not the way human beings operate as a whole group.

Yes, intelligent argument based on facts will never make anyone change their minds... you should scream and throw things at them.

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Star Member sharedvalues (6,337 posts)

12. Ellen, love you, but let me talk about psych for a bit

Different messages are more or less persuasive to different people.

To most liberals calm reasoned discussion is the most persuasive form of argument.
But from most conservatives this is not true!

What persuades many conservatives, is anger, directness, and emotion. This is why Brett Kavanaugh yelled and that worked. This is why Rush Limbaugh calls women “feminazis”. (If you’d like to read more about this, George Lakoff has written about it— how conservatives respond to strength and liberals want to talk things through.)

So, what does that mean? If you meet a conservative, the most effective thing you can do is call them stupid. Call them an idiot. A sucker. (But stay calm. If you get worked up it seems less strong.)

It sounds CRAZY to liberals like us. But that’s why conservatives like Fox and we hate it. We like different styles of communication.

Try it!

Ps I almost always agree with you here.

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36. It seems to me that the only time Ds get the attention of the Rs in Congress or public is when Ds

decide to take no hostages and speak truth! It may be accompanied with anger but so long as it's not violence I'm good with that. Otherwise I don't think any shift in the R thought process will occur. I'm for shaming them back to hiding under the rock where they came from and short of violence and silence I'm doing all that I can to accomplish that. This is my world, too.

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22. I respectively disagree

I agree with the OP, we need to make a snap decision and pick two paths:

1. Educate
2. Embarrass

Bluntly a person would be correct going the embarrassment route well over 80% of the time.

Seeing the person came out aggressive, I believe the OP made a decision that was 99.9% correct. Had the person provided any inkling that their mind could be changed, then you try to educate.

This can't be said enough, THEY ARE BAD, IGNORANT PEOPLE!

Edit: Sharedvalues in post 12 hit it. It may be uncomfortable, but it is necessary, they need to be punched between the eyes. Sometimes multiple times. Liberals don't get this, kind, nurturing doesn't work. It is why we can't comprehend anyone voting for tRump. Make it extremely uncomfortable for them and we can flip up to 20% of them.

Now are we using them, with out a doubt, but it is for their own good.

they are lunatics.

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34. Kindness and nurturing is seen as weakness

They often see it as an opportunity to take advantage and demonstrate dominance. That's why the Right viewed the 2016 debates as a win for Trump, he was belligerent and repetitive vs. her reasoned policy-oriented approach.

 :lmao: They still believe hillary won the 2016 debates...

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Ferrets are Cool (5,537 posts)

40. Nope.

They haven't earned polite dialog. They are ****ing ME over and every other American who isn't a billionaire. Not only America, but the world is suffering because of their IDIOCY also. So **** ALL OF THEM.

Of course, you can handle it however YOU want.

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25. Um, not only no, but hell no!

each one of those takes you down a rabbit hole. Why would any logical person still be a tRump supporter?

Everything they said the Clinton's did, tRump has actually done. Yet they hate the Clinton's but love tRump.

So using logic is a fools errand.

The OP was right.

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Re: Because I'm not stupid.
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2019, 09:39:25 PM »
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Because I'm not stupid.

 :rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf:

Whatever helps you sleep at night, primitive.

 :rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf:

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So, what does that mean? If you meet a conservative, the most effective thing you can do is call them stupid. Call them an idiot. A sucker. (But stay calm. If you get worked up it seems less strong.)

 :rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao:

Considering the source, who would care?

 :rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf:

This from the same dolts who get upset when they hear someone say democrat party.

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Re: Because I'm not stupid.
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2019, 11:27:23 PM »
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4. Nope. It doesn't help. Stupid is stupid. You can’t fix it.

That's why you DUmbasses are beyond redemption.
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Re: Because I'm not stupid.
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2019, 08:17:33 AM »
Well, I don't know about the rest of you, but when the DUmmies all call me stupid and evil, well, it just strikes a chord in my soul, and I want to thank them for enlightening me with their irresistible intellect and warmth.

Wait a minute.
Strike that.


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Re: Because I'm not stupid.
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2019, 08:34:59 AM »
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Star Member sharedvalues (6,337 posts)

12. Ellen, love you, but let me talk about psych for a bit

Different messages are more or less persuasive to different people.

To most liberals calm reasoned discussion is the most persuasive form of argument.
But from most conservatives this is not true!

What persuades many conservatives, is anger, directness, and emotion. This is why Brett Kavanaugh yelled and that worked. This is why Rush Limbaugh calls women “feminazis”. (If you’d like to read more about this, George Lakoff has written about it— how conservatives respond to strength and liberals want to talk things through.)

So, what does that mean? If you meet a conservative, the most effective thing you can do is call them stupid. Call them an idiot. A sucker. (But stay calm. If you get worked up it seems less strong.)
Deplorable didn't work so maybe "stupid" will? Yes, do that.   :whatever:
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Re: Because I'm not stupid.
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2019, 08:42:06 AM »
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Because I'm not stupid.
That was my answer when one of the white people at a very white get-together, surprised to hear me defend Hillary Clinton against a smear, asked me "You're a Democrat??!!! Really? Why?"

And then a cop fell out of the bushes laughing ... :rotf:
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Re: Because I'm not stupid.
« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2019, 11:07:25 AM »
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Because I'm not stupid

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Re: Because I'm not stupid.
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2019, 12:02:49 PM »
OBJECTION!

Assumes fact not in evidence.
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Re: Because I'm not stupid.
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2019, 07:43:28 PM »
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they need to be punched between the eyes. Sometimes multiple times. Liberals don't get this, kind, nurturing doesn't work. It is why we can't comprehend anyone voting for tRump. Make it extremely uncomfortable for them and we can flip up to 20% of them.

What manner of logic makes them think they can flip 20% (a huge number) by hitting us between the eyes multiple times?  And BTW, how would they ever get a chance to do it even once? 

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Re: Because I'm not stupid.
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2019, 08:12:37 PM »
Quote from: Karin on August 28, 2019, 07:43:28 PM
...  And BTW, how would they ever get a chance to do it even once? 
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So you're expecting something like: "Whifff!" "Click, bang!"
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Re: Because I'm not stupid.
« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2019, 09:29:33 AM »
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Star Member sharedvalues (6,337 posts)

12. Ellen, love you, but let me talk about psych for a bit

Different messages are more or less persuasive to different people.

To most liberals calm reasoned discussion is the most persuasive form of argument.
But from most conservatives this is not true!

What persuades many conservatives, is anger, directness, and emotion. This is why Brett Kavanaugh yelled and that worked. This is why Rush Limbaugh calls women “feminazis”. (If you’d like to read more about this, George Lakoff has written about it— how conservatives respond to strength and liberals want to talk things through.)

So, what does that mean? If you meet a conservative, the most effective thing you can do is call them stupid. Call them an idiot. A sucker. (But stay calm. If you get worked up it seems less strong.)

It sounds CRAZY to liberals like us. But that’s why conservatives like Fox and we hate it. We like different styles of communication.

Try it!

Ps I almost always agree with you here.[\quote]

I think that this one hits the nail squarely on the head...in fact, I think that whoever ends up as the Democrat Party nominee next year should just keep repeating "Are you a conservative? If so, you're stupid, you're an idiot, you're a sucker." They'd easily win 600 votes in the electoral college...
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Re: Because I'm not stupid.
« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2019, 10:06:02 AM »
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This is why Brett Kavanaugh yelled and that worked.

I believe that statement is false, though people falsely accused of crimes usually do not respond entirely calmly.
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Re: Because I'm not stupid.
« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2019, 03:09:18 PM »
I don't understand their problem with white people, considering we are still the majority they have no hope of winning without us. Besides, who built this country and all it's wonderfull technology. All the countrise run by blacks and latinos are mostly third world shit holes run by dictators.
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