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Police: Man dies after attacking immigration prison
« on: July 13, 2019, 06:21:42 PM »
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Police: Man dies after attacking immigration prison
Police: Man dies after attacking immigration prison

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https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/police-kill-man-allegedly-attacking-immigration-prison-64316401

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A man armed with a rifle threw incendiary devices at an immigration jail in Washington state early Saturday morning, then was found dead after four police officers arrived and opened fire, authorities said.

The Tacoma Police Department said the officers responded at about 4 a.m. to the privately run Tacoma Northwest Detention Center, a U.S. Department of Homeland Security detention facility that holds migrants pending deportation proceedings. The detention center has also held immigration-seeking parents separated from their children under President Donald Trump's "zero tolerance" policy, an effort meant to deter illegal immigration.


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1. Any word yet as to his motive?

To free the detainees, or to kill them?

Oh, to be sure... he was aright wing nutjob trying to kill detainees...  :thatsright:

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2. I think since he threw devices at the actual prisons he was attacking detainees.

 :thatsright: :thatsright: :thatsright: :thatsright:    :stoner: :stoner: :stoner:   :thatsright: :thatsright: :thatsright:
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Re: Police: Man dies after attacking immigration prison
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2019, 06:25:19 PM »
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2. Watch this get spun into Violent Extreme Lefties attack Ice Agents

This is about to get ugly. Brace yourselves.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142341017

from the other thread about it...

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8. I doubt he was there trying to free the people inside with a rile and bombs!!!!!!!

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9. Too early to tell.

"I'll create and explosion as a distraction. If the building's on fire, they'll have to evacuate it. I have a rifle, I can shoot the guards when they come running out and have the element of surprise. I'm a good enough shot to only kill the guards and not hurt any innocents."

Or ...

"I'll set the building on fire and explode the propane tank to make sure the building's on fire. Then, as the immigrants come running out, I'l shoot them, too, and spare the guards--because I know the guards won't bother to shoot at me, if they're armed."


I find the former more likely, mostly because if you want to find immigrants you don't need to go to an ICE detention facility and because it's so like the story line on what, at least a few thousand movies? But if you want to liberate the undocumented, then you have to go precisely to a detention facility.

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Re: Police: Man dies after attacking immigration prison
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2019, 07:04:18 PM »
DUpipo really think this deceased character was trying to kill the detained illegals? :stoner:  :stoner:  :stoner:  :stoner:  :stoner:
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Re: Police: Man dies after attacking immigration prison
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2019, 08:47:46 PM »
Dollars to donuts the Darwin Award nominee is a liberal.
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Re: Police: Man dies after attacking immigration prison
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2019, 09:39:23 PM »
The freak leftist is an antifa goon.  I'm glad he was killed and hope he suffered before he expired.
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Re: Police: Man dies after attacking immigration prison
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2019, 09:54:26 PM »
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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)Sat Jul 13, 2019, 04:25 PM
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2. Watch this get spun into Violent Extreme Lefties attack Ice Agents

This is about to get ugly. Brace yourselves.

Since that is almost certainly precisely what happened, it won't take too much spinning.

At least something good might come from the man making the ultimate sacrifice--he died helping to ensure a Trump landslide in 2020.
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Re: Police: Man dies after attacking immigration prison
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2019, 10:22:34 PM »
Quote from: jukin on July 13, 2019, 09:39:23 PM
The freak leftist is an antifa goon.  I'm glad he was killed and hope he suffered before he expired.

This antifa goon could actually turn out to be a primitive--he's 69 years old.

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Man Who Attacked Tacoma ICE Detention Center Was Anarchist/Antifa ICE Protester, Who Previously Attacked Police At Same Place
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Re: Police: Man dies after attacking immigration prison
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2019, 06:42:38 AM »
The deceased is a member of the John Brown Gun Club
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Re: Police: Man dies after attacking immigration prison
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2019, 08:31:52 AM »
Quote from: SSG Snuggle Bunny on July 14, 2019, 06:42:38 AM
The deceased is a member of the John Brown Gun Club

And like the club's namesake soon will be a-mouldering in the grave.

Yesterday I asked, unseriously, whether any DU members were unaccounted for. Last night I recalled that "Shockey80" lives in the Puget Sound area. Also, I think S80 is 60-something. Has "Shockey80" posted on DU since yesterday AM? S80 is lunatic, but I hope he didn't go out this way.
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Re: Police: Man dies after attacking immigration prison
« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2019, 08:50:34 AM »
Quote from: Delmar on July 13, 2019, 10:22:34 PM
This antifa goon could actually turn out to be a primitive--he's 69 years old.
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He actually got off his radical ass and did something IRL. So No not a DUchebag.
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Re: Police: Man dies after attacking immigration prison
« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2019, 09:01:58 AM »
Armed man attacking Tacoma’s ICE detention center killed in officer-involved shooting

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A protest outside the federal immigration detention center in Tacoma last year drew headlines when a 68-year-old man wrapped his arms around a police officer’s throat and shoulders in an apparent attempt to free another protester.

When police got the man into handcuffs, they found a collapsible baton and knife in his pocket, leading to criminal charges.

Early Saturday morning, that man, Willem Van Spronsen of Vashon Island, returned to the Northwest Detention Center, the holding facility for the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, this time armed with a rifle and incendiary devices, according to Tacoma police.

Police said Van Spronsen tossed lit objects at vehicles and buildings, causing one car fire, and unsuccessfully tried to ignite a propane tank.

Officers were called by an ICE employee who saw the rifle. Soon after they arrived, officers reported “shots fired,” said Tacoma police spokeswoman Loretta Cool, although it is unclear who fired first or if Van Spronsen fired at all. The Pierce County Medical Examiner’s Office classified his death as a homicide.
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Deb Bartley, a friend of Van Spronsen’s for about 20 years, described him as an anarchist and anti-fascist, and she believes his attack on the detention center was intended to provoke a fatal conflict.

 “He was ready to end it,” Bartley said. “I think this was a suicide. But then he was able to kind of do it in a way that spoke to his political beliefs … I know he went down there knowing he was going to die.”

She and other friends of Van Spronsen got letters in the mail “just saying goodbye.” He also wrote what she referred to as a manifesto, which she declined to discuss in detail but predicted would be taken by authorities.
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Re: Police: Man dies after attacking immigration prison
« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2019, 11:47:56 AM »
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5. Don't assume the motive will fit neatly into an ideological template

I grew up in Tacoma, and back in the day Vashon Island, where the attacker lived, was a haven for semi-off-the-grid eccentrics. The fact that it's only reachable by ferry may have kept it from gentrifying too much.

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oh well...

Down the rabbit hole it goes. Can't have a post about leftists commiting crimes...
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Re: Police: Man dies after attacking immigration prison
« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2019, 11:56:10 AM »
Quote from: dutch508 on July 14, 2019, 11:47:56 AM
oh well...

Down the rabbit hole it goes. Can't have a post about leftists commiting crimes...

Yep, memory-hole the stupidity and shut down the thread.
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Re: Police: Man dies after attacking immigration prison
« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2019, 01:09:47 PM »
So, that's one less antifa ass hole we have to worry about. :loser: :loser: :loser:

Maybe more of them should go on the attack to police and commit suicide by cop. :naughty: :naughty:
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Re: Police: Man dies after attacking immigration prison
« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2019, 02:50:46 PM »
Quote from: Old n Grumpy on July 14, 2019, 01:09:47 PM
So, that's one less antifa ass hole we have to worry about. :loser: :loser: :loser:

Maybe more of them should go on the attack to police and commit suicide by cop. :naughty: :naughty:
Yep.
The less of those vermin to commit crimes, start fights and riots against people who disagree with him, contribute to the income of drug dealers, and do other crap like that, the better.
Though, I hope the cop who sent him to Hell in a clear case of self- defense doesn't get punished too severely.
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