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Star Member Laura PourMeADrink (27,323 posts)
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It's a huge pill to swallow, for sure - that MF45 wouldn't be removed from office, BUT the timing, RIGHT NOW, is perfect to start impeachment ASAP. Right now, there's a backdrop - sexual attack accusation, foreign policy debacles, the inhumanity he has created at the border, the planned/unplanned/planned again Nazi-like raids looking for deportees.....

Once you accept that he won't be convicted, there are still benefits to moving forward with impeachment asap anyway.

1. It would energize the 67% of the Democratic Party many/most who are probably in the 10 million who signed the moveon impeachment petition - that want us to do SOMETHING to, at the very least, "Stand up and declare to the world that what he does/has done is wrong."

2. It would force the Republicans to have to take a stand. There, in writing, for the world to see, will be a concise list of impeachable offenses. It is the last thing Republicans want to have to explain to their brighter constituents - that they didn't care, wasn't bad enough, that the president is above the law (considering 1000+ prosecutors said there are prosecutable crimes there)

3. Even dipshit Trump knows that only two presidents have been impeached. He will go down in history forever as the third one. Even if history books put an asterisk and *fake news.

4. Yes, he can say he was exonerated - but he's already saying that now. Yes, he could say it louder, and it might carry more weight. But, this won't gain him anything - since any gain would be offset by the people who actually hear for the first time what he did. In other words, if the charges were blow-job bogus, he might gain by an unfair impeachment. But the charges aren't bogus.


Yeah... let's see those impeachable offenses...

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Star Member uponit7771 (55,921 posts)

1. K&R, Senate is not needed to hurt Republican party & Trump politically while following Constitution

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2. they need to time it right so senate doesn't get a chance to exonerate him complete impeachment a week 2020 before election.

yeah... it's not a political ploy or anything...

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Star Member Bettie (6,357 posts)

29. It has to start before the last quarter of the year

so it can be "ongoing" before the election cycle really kicks into gear.

And investigations will take a LONG time since one side doesn't believe that laws are actually a thing.

Then, the hearings, public, televised, detailing his many criminal and unethical acts.

Hang it around Republican necks like a millstone: They don't believe in the rule of law.

can you list them for me?

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Star Member Honeycombe8 (37,030 posts)

11. The new sexual attack allegations can't be involved.

It would have to be proven as a crime, and Congress is not a criminal court for rape allegations. You can't impeach someone because there are allegations against them...otherwise, Bill Clinton would have been impeached for that. He wasn't. He was impeached for the proven crime of perjury and for obstruction of justice.

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25. as a practical matter, congress could impeach and remove a president for nearly anything. sufficient allegations, even if unproven, even there isn't enough evidence for a conviction in criminal court, could still be used to impeach and remove a president or other senior officer.

congress has the sole power to impeach and try impeachment cases, and there's no constitutional requirement for proof beyond a reasonable doubt or even by the preponderance of evidence. it's really up to congress to decide.

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Star Member Honeycombe8 (37,030 posts)

34. No. It has to be for "high crimes and misdemeanors."

I suppose they could do it, and put it on hold until a trial is held. But as a practical matter, not gonna happen.

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33. Carry it PAST the elections

Screw the "it's during an election" business! They wouldn't! We'll get him out one way or the other.

death threats?

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It's a huge pill to swallow, for sure - that MF45 wouldn't be removed from office, BUT the timing, RIGHT NOW, is perfect to start impeachment ASAP. ...

Yes! Please! Impeaching Trump would be pretty much the stupidest thing the Dem Party could do, so IMPEACH TRUMP NOW!!! :rotf:  :fuelfire:
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3. Even dipshit Trump knows that only two presidents have been impeached. He will go down in history forever as the third one.

Only one elected President has ever been impeached and that would be   impeached former President Clinton no asterisk needed.
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the planned/unplanned/planned again Nazi-like raids looking for deportees.....



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>It's a huge pill to swallow, for sure

I doubt it's as large as the loads you have swallowed to show your pious belief of the idiocy and filth that somehow entered your mind.