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Oh my.  According to Fordbes magazine, the Vermont "socialist" has a net worth of $2.5 million, which I suspect is far above the average net worth of the average American.

Oh, and don't forget that three mansions is probably two and a half times more housing than what the average American has.

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I feel so out of place...To me $ 2 million is a fortune. But today I'm reading on DU that it isn't

That much money.

I'm a renter who lives in a small condo. I always thought owning three homes was for the wealthy. Owning even one home is way beyond my reach...I can't in my wildest dreams imagine what it feels like to own three.

I thought most people here were like me, struggling to survive, but today I'm reading post after post that having two million Dollars and three homes is no big deal...wow

Do most posters feel that way? Do you believe most Americans believe 2 million Dollars and three homes is no big deal

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RandySF (23,485 posts)      Sat Apr 13, 2019, 12:51 AM

1. Sounds pretty well off to me.

Okay, about the first third of the thread, the topic gets off track, the primitives gibber-jabbering about Medicare before they finally get back on track.

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ooky (2,334 posts)      Sat Apr 13, 2019, 01:01 AM

4. I guess its one of those relative things.

I don't consider myself poor but having all that would be a lot more than I have now, so yeah, I tend to agree with your take on it. I can't imagine that most Americans would think that.

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revmclaren (1,150 posts)     Sat Apr 13, 2019, 01:02 AM
 
6. I have worked consistently for over 40 years and never have owned, or ever will own my own home.

Someone who owns three homes and is worth millions in income and property reeks of wealth and privilege. Being rich is not the problem here.

Hiding this wealth for personal and/or political gain to me is appalling.

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Me. (23,398 posts)      Sat Apr 13, 2019, 03:07 PM

80. Bingo

and don't forget he and Jane collect SS and will have a lovely pension with medical when he retires. In 2014 he collected $46,213 in Social Security which some people would certainly appreciate having.

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BigmanPigman (25,423 posts)     Sat Apr 13, 2019, 01:09 AM
 
10. Sounds like they are rich.

My budget and income is like the Dem congresswoman's example of surviving on low income. She has been schooling the heads of banks about employees' salaries and min wage on the news lately. I haven't been able to afford a movie, to eat out (over $10 a month), buy any new clothes, get a haircut, buy food that isn't in the discount food section (not rotting yet), any entertainment, trip, etc for years. My healthcare bills with insurance are 33% of my disability/retirement. I live in CA and it is VERY expensive (even a one bedroom apt) but it is where my family lives. Oh, and I pay the full amount required by the IRS. A hundred thousand sounds like a lot to me too.

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TeamPooka (14,941 posts)      Sat Apr 13, 2019, 01:57 AM

33. Kinda puts a spike in the socialist label a little bit.

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Liberal In Texas (8,814 posts)      Sat Apr 13, 2019, 01:21 AM

16. How old are you? Retired?

We don't have 2 million or whatever...we have a small cottage. And still making mortgage payments.

We have a couple of paid for cars. (OK 3, one is an 87 Firebird I refuse to part with.)

We doing SS and Medicare and some small pensions from past things. We are not rich. Just getting by.

We feel lucky to have Medicare. We feel lucky not to have credit card debt.

I believe 2M and 3 homes is a huge extravagance and not something we aspire to.

I don't know many wealthy people, but one couple I know have a house with an outdoor kitchen, that's right an outdoor kitchen that is larger than the one in my small house. It has wine refrigerators. Several grills. A couple of ceiling fans. A fire pit.

He's a doctor, so I guess he's allowed. Stopped being envious a long time ago. Just want to get on with my life. Watch Netflix, read a lot of books, build scale models and visit kids and grand kids. We don't need $2M.

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panader0 (18,365 posts)     Sat Apr 13, 2019, 10:27 AM

71. I was a bricklayer for most of my life.

I also did concrete, carpentry, drywall, roofing, tile and more.

I bought 40 acres that took me 25 years to pay off. I built my own two story 3000 square foot house, a little at a time. Raised four kids alone. They're gone now, all successful.

Now I live on $846 dollars a month from Social Security.

My poverty makes me qualified for AHCCCS, the Arizona state medical program, so most medical is covered, though I don't need it.

I feel rich. My sweetheart splits the bills with me, she does electric and cable, I do taxes, propane, firewood and garbage.

There's enough to go out to eat once a week. I feel rich on $846 a month.

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Me. (23,398 posts)      Sat Apr 13, 2019, 03:15 PM

83. THen Imagine How You'd Feel With $3851.08 A Month

which is what Senator Sanders collects in SS a month. Plus his Senate salary.

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John Fante (2,164 posts)    Sat Apr 13, 2019, 05:57 PM
 
101. Two million is well-off anywhere. Yes, even in places like Manhattan or San Francisco.

That, folks, is probably what's going to sink Bernie.  His utter hypocrisy in not sharing his wealth with those who have less.
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Re: primitives whining about Bernie Sanders' unsocialistic wealth
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2019, 02:22:39 AM »
I still have the blue cushioned folding chair Bernie as Mayor of BTV sat in at the Chittenden County Fairgrounds when Bob Dylan played there around 1991.
There was no plan to take home a chair but the wretched slowness of exiting required me to sit between spells of motion.  Next thing I know, I'm
at the truck way out in mudville and tossed it in the bed.

When the smoky joints came down the front row we were in, the Burn just passed it on past his cadre of staff.  Not kidding. 
Money back then was not a blocker for the county fair but I was dilligaf and just wanted to see the Dylan up close and the Bern was grinning right with me.

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Re: primitives whining about Bernie Sanders' unsocialistic wealth
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2019, 06:48:39 AM »
Who was the last D or R President who did not have at least a million or two in assets when they entered office? Maybe Ike and/or Truman? Coolidge, Harding, Wilson, or Taft?
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Re: primitives whining about Bernie Sanders' unsocialistic wealth
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2019, 06:59:52 AM »
I guess none of the DUpipo ever read Animal Farm. Remember, some animals are more equal than others.

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Re: primitives whining about Bernie Sanders' unsocialistic wealth
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2019, 08:53:17 AM »
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revmclaren (1,150 posts)     Sat Apr 13, 2019, 01:02 AM
 
6. I have worked consistently for over 40 years and never have owned, or ever will own my own home

40 years and you still have to ask if people want fries with their burger?  That isn't a societal problem, that's your own damn fault if you can't buy a house after 40 freaking years in the workforce.
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Re: primitives whining about Bernie Sanders' unsocialistic wealth
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2019, 12:01:01 PM »
I searched the thread to see if the primitive yuiyoshida showed up, but she didn't make a reply.  She is the primitive who is worried about getting thrown out of her overpriced, rat infested, shit hole apartment.

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Response to California_Republic (Reply #64)Tue Oct 9, 2018, 02:14 AM
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67. Don't you tell me to calm down, how dare you!

READ THE NEWSPAPER LINKS.. are you saying its FAKE NEWS?
YOU probably live in a nice house, where I LIVE in poverty... I don't tell people how or what kinds of CONDITIONS i live in. I BET you don't see big RATS in your living room do you? Well I been fighting my slum lord land lord for years and she wants me out, Present Rent control keeps me in this place cause I have no where else to go. ..I am 3 FEET FROM THE DAMN STREET... as far as homelessness goes.. SO DON'T TELL ME TO CALM DOWN. If this passes she can force me to leave by raising the damn rent.
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If rats moved into one of Bernie's houses, he could just let them take over and he could go live in one of his other two houses.  Problem solved.
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Re: primitives whining about Bernie Sanders' unsocialistic wealth
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2019, 01:18:05 PM »
Well, they don't have to worry about Creepy Joe being a millionaire. Supposedly his net worth is only ~$900K. :rotf:
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Re: primitives whining about Bernie Sanders' unsocialistic wealth
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2019, 01:25:18 PM »
I guess none of the DUpipo ever read Animal Farm. Remember, some animals are more equal than others.

Yup. Very true. I would think they should of Bernie Sanders being a politician is likely worth a lot. Of course, that is expecting too much from them.
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Re: primitives whining about Bernie Sanders' unsocialistic wealth
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2019, 01:49:30 PM »


If rats moved into one of Bernie's houses, he could just let them take over and he could go live in one of his other two houses.  Problem solved.
Nah, they'd just take away his microphone and hed just stand there
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Re: primitives whining about Bernie Sanders' unsocialistic wealth
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2019, 04:22:08 PM »
I searched the thread to see if the primitive yuiyoshida showed up, but she didn't make a reply.  She is the primitive who is worried about getting thrown out of her overpriced, rat infested, shit hole apartment.

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Response to California_Republic (Reply #64)Tue Oct 9, 2018, 02:14 AM
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67. Don't you tell me to calm down, how dare you!

READ THE NEWSPAPER LINKS.. are you saying its FAKE NEWS?
YOU probably live in a nice house, where I LIVE in poverty... I don't tell people how or what kinds of CONDITIONS i live in. I BET you don't see big RATS in your living room do you? Well I been fighting my slum lord land lord for years and she wants me out, Present Rent control keeps me in this place cause I have no where else to go. ..I am 3 FEET FROM THE DAMN STREET... as far as homelessness goes.. SO DON'T TELL ME TO CALM DOWN. If this passes she can force me to leave by raising the damn rent.

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/104019579

If rats moved into one of Bernie's houses, he could just let them take over and he could go live in one of his other two houses.  Problem solved.

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It amazes (well not, but you know what I mean) me how many DUpipo are 5 deet from being thrown out or have worked 40 years and can only DREAM of owning their own home, much less 1+MM in the bank.

Study after study has shown that to avoid poverty you need only get married before having kids and get a full time job.  It is 90+% true.

These are either the most unlucky or the LAZIEST people ever assembled. 

Not that many people are that unlucky.
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Re: primitives whining about Bernie Sanders' unsocialistic wealth
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2019, 09:42:17 PM »
A side conversation in that thread:

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21. Back in the recession and high unemployment

It was suggested to give everyone over 55 a million and have them pay off mortgages and let them retire opening all the jobs up to younger folks. I don’t remember how much it would have been but cheaper than any of the other “ fixes”.

Would have fixed us for sure.

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43. Suggestions like that always have a catch

"Give everyone over 55 a million?" WHO is doing the giving? What account has a big enough balance to cover a number like that? If a million people in the USA turn 55 every year, that's a TRILLION dollars. Not even abolishing the Departments of Defense, Justice and Education would free up that much money.

And of course,

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47. With socialism it would be possible. Simply by taxing the rich and equalizing the lower income...

citizens. We are all in this together.

 :rotf: :mental:

And in reply, DFW rather made my jaw drop:

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48. Ideally, maybe, but the devil is in the details

With socialism, there theoretically should ultimately be no rich to tax. On a practical basis, once the rich have had their wealth confiscated, the question then becomes, who then redistributes the wealth? Socialist governments then say, "we will." Every time this has been given a chance to be put into practice, those governments then decide that in their wisdom, they end up redistributing most of the confiscated wealth among themselves.


Nobody responded to that at all.  But then drywall ruined my goodwill with

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72. The problems are caused by selfish people with evil intentions, not the number of zeroes

George Soros, the billionaire, is not evil. Tom Cotton, not even a millionaire yet, is an evil piece of excrement.

Soros is evil incarnate.  I'm not a fan of Cotton anymore, having shown himself as a NeverTrumper, but leaving that aside, Soros has a demon waiting for him. 



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Re: primitives whining about Bernie Sanders' unsocialistic wealth
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2019, 08:07:35 AM »
Bernie has a house and two dachas? What's wrong with that, comrade? Politb ... errrr, Senate members are entitled.
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Re: primitives whining about Bernie Sanders' unsocialistic wealth
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2019, 08:23:10 AM »
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Me. (23,398 posts)      Sat Apr 13, 2019, 03:07 PM

80. Bingo

and don't forget he and Jane collect SS and will have a lovely pension with medical when he retires. In 2014 he collected $46,213 in Social Security which some people would certainly appreciate having.

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BigmanPigman (25,423 posts)     Sat Apr 13, 2019, 01:09 AM
 
10. Sounds like they are rich.

My budget and income is like the Dem congresswoman's example of surviving on low income. She has been schooling the heads of banks about employees' salaries and min wage on the news lately. I haven't been able to afford a movie, to eat out (over $10 a month), buy any new clothes, get a haircut, buy food that isn't in the discount food section (not rotting yet), any entertainment, trip, etc for years. My healthcare bills with insurance are 33% of my disability/retirement. I live in CA and it is VERY expensive (even a one bedroom apt) but it is where my family lives. Oh, and I pay the full amount required by the IRS. A hundred thousand sounds like a lot to me too.

I guess that is what they mean by "voting in their best interest." Maybe it is time these DUmmies stop doing the same damn thing over and over and vote differently this time. Just a thought.
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