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How to get Mueller Report
« on: April 11, 2019, 08:30:55 PM »
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How to get Mueller Report (and underlying evidence) and tax returns -IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDINGS
While the clock is ticking, we are currently and will continue to deal with delay and stall tactics by Barr and are likely to head to court.

Except, If the House authorizes its Judiciary Committee to conduct a formal impeachment inquiry, thus a judicial proceeding, then it can get the Mueller Report, its underlying evidence, and his tax returns.

"One of the exceptions to grand jury secrecy is disclosure “preliminary to or in connection with a judicial proceeding.” To authorize disclosure of the Watergate grand jury information, the special prosecutor’s office argued that the House had authorized its Judiciary Committee to conduct a formal impeachment inquiry and that such an inquiry could be fairly analogized to a “grand jury” investigation and thus a judicial proceeding. Both the district court and the court of appeals agreed, and the Judiciary Committee obtained both the report and the underlying evidence."

(co-authored by Lawrence Tribe, constitutional lawyer at Harvard law)

The full Mueller report could be released — if the House opens preliminary impeachment hearings

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-full-mueller-report-could-be-released--if-the-house-opens-impeachment-hearings/2019/04/08/e47fff42-5a14-11e9-a00e-050dc7b82693_story.html?utm_term=.4c9c080819c2

I can't express my views on the matter more eloquently than our member DontBooVote:
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"Impeachment is not a waste of time. It is an opportunity to lay the evidence on the table for all to see. If that evidence shows a conspiracy with russia and/or a case for obstruction of justice, then let every Senator log his/her vote and let the chips fall where they may.


Impeachment is IMPERATIVE for the sake of history and the historical record!

If he is found, by a preponderance of the evidence, to be guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors, and some Senators refuse to impeach, then so be it! We're no further at a loss than we are right now. Because it will be obvious to all, should the evidence show guilt, that the repug senators are to blame for a failure to impeach, not Democrats'.

And if the evidence shows innocence (yea, right! ), then the damage from Democrats from an acquittal will be mitigated by Democratic Senators voting with repugs to acquit leaving Democrats able to righteously claim that, in the end, they were fair to tRump and voted to acquit. "
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Below, is an excellent article below which is an in-depth analysis of why the House must begin impeachment proceedings:

Impeach Donald Trump
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/03/impeachment-trump/580468/

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1. just to be clear, all we need to do is hold impeachment hearings.

that's what gets us the special investigative powers.

we don't need to actually impeach him.

just hold the hearings, gather the evidence, and keep laying it out for the public as more and more impeachment hearings.

except, the report and evidence would still be classified and or redacted by the agency.... not that that would stop and [D] from leaking it...

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20. I wonder if they're waiting

for Barr’s redacted version of the Mueller report. I think that’s what I would do since that’s just a few days away, supposedly. After it comes out, we may have a clearer picture of how much evidence they had that they deemed was not enough to “establish” that there was a criminal conspiracy.

If it comes out and they don’t act, I will contact my congressman at that point. Because I think we really need to see his tax returns. It’s worth galvanizing the right over impeachment to gain that info.

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9. **** their recess

How can you take a recess when we have a "state of emergency" anyway?

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5. True. Not only that, but at the end of a House impeachment investigation, a vote is taken whether to

refer to the Senate for an impeachment trial.

So, we have more investigatory power to get ahold of evidence (i.e. Mueller report) and present to the American public, especially via open hearings, before the 2020 election.



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Star Member mopinko (52,384 posts)

10. impeach barr.

y'all dont want to impeach spanky, go ahead and start w barr. gets all the same evidence. convict barr, and you know spanky is toast.

yes, i' dreaming.
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26. IMPEACH TRUMP NOW!!! IMPEACH TRUMP NOW!!! IMPEACH TRUMP NOW!!! IMPEACH TRUMP NOW!!!

The moment of truth has finally come - heck, Trump and the Republicans have left us no other option than to open impeachment proceedings.

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28. Go for it. Go hard, go bold, take no prisoners. SCORCHED EARTH.

If ever there was a time when the machinery of constitutional government must operate in full force, it is now.

The moment is pregnant with cause--the "fierce urgency of now," to borrow a phrase; our plan of government demands that impeachment proceedings swiftly begin, as the very foundations of government and rule of law face an existential threat unlike any other in our history.

Either enact the plan and save the nation, or let it spiral toward the dustbin of history and join countless other failed states whose trustees lacked the courage or commitment to challenge the course of drift and demise.

In other words, let's roll. Get it on.

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Re: How to get Mueller Report
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2019, 12:54:44 AM »
>How to get Mueller Report (and underlying evidence) and tax returns...

Skip the lawyers, guns and money and buy some KY and learn how to touch your toes.   Yo may be hosed, but the results are the same.

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Re: How to get Mueller Report
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2019, 08:42:05 AM »
Well, if I understand things correctly, the LPC Noob is half correct. The courts will probably rule, when the case finally gets there and goes through the chain of courts, that the House cannot get the tax returns unless it is for some aspect of proper House proceedings. The current fishing expedition would not qualify; impeachment proceedings might. OTOH, I do not think the courts could force the bypass of rules about grand jury material, nor, I think, essentially declassify redacted classified material.

Realistically speaking, it's April, 2019. The election is less than 19 months away. The chances of anything happening that DU-grade Proggies will like (initially) are fairly low. IOW, the prospects are cloudy, with a high likelihood of Whomp-Whomp.
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Re: How to get Mueller Report
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2019, 08:55:12 AM »
Does anyone have some excellent search skills for the DUmp?  I have a couple of things I’d be really interested in knowing.

1.  When was the first mention of impeachment against DJT at the DUmp?

2.  How many times has the word impeachment or impeach been used at the DUmp since that day?

An inquiring mind wants to know.

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Re: How to get Mueller Report
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2019, 09:06:15 AM »
Does anyone have some excellent search skills for the DUmp?  I have a couple of things I’d be really interested in knowing.

1.  When was the first mention of impeachment against DJT at the DUmp?

2.  How many times has the word impeachment or impeach been used at the DUmp since that day?

An inquiring mind wants to know.

KC

I'm not a DU-member and don't have search access, but I've seen claims here or on CU that DU was talking impeachment before Trump was inaugurated.
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Re: How to get Mueller Report
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2019, 09:08:06 AM »
Please, House democrats, stick to the impeachment thing based on what is now rightly perceived by a majority of Americans (and almost all Republicans and, more importantly, independents) as a politically-based witch hunt that tried and failed to take down a lawfully elected President.  While you're at it, ignore the promises you made to win back control of the house, like budgeting, and the issues that the voters care about, like curtailing illegal immigration.  Follow that up with digging into the tax records of a then-private citizen for political reasons.  Nakedly pursue destruction of your opponents.

And then tell Nancy to hand the gavel over in January 2021, because she won't be the Speaker anymore.

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Re: How to get Mueller Report
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2019, 09:22:37 AM »
Here are a couple of DU threads - found here, not there - in which impeachment is discussed before Trump was inaugurated:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/12512678212

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10028345456

The latter was begun by mo-mo a mere month after the 2016 election. :rotf:
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Re: How to get Mueller Report
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2019, 10:11:52 AM »
Gracious. They're operating fast and furious wanting all the details to come out. I guess they're really concerned that the president is in cahoots with our enemies. Maybe they think he gave them pallets full of cash or something. It's kind of been gots me wondering about things to the point that I'm having to wipe my sweaty brow like with a rag.
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Re: How to get Mueller Report
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2019, 01:31:24 PM »
Here are a couple of DU threads - found here, not there - in which impeachment is discussed before Trump was inaugurated:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/12512678212

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10028345456

The latter was begun by mo-mo a mere month after the 2016 election. :rotf:


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Re: How to get Mueller Report
« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2019, 01:34:44 PM »

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Good times!

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I did a search here on CC using "impeach", the DUmpster as the only forum, and a time span of 700-800 days. I was about to leave for work, so I didn't look over all the results.
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Re: How to get Mueller Report
« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2019, 02:04:55 PM »
Here are a couple of DU threads - found here, not there - in which impeachment is discussed before Trump was inaugurated:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/12512678212

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10028345456

The latter was begun by mo-mo a mere month after the 2016 election. :rotf:

God. they are so MILD about Trump in those!!!  More like "just someone we don't like" rather than the absolute hatred they have now. 
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Re: How to get Mueller Report
« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2019, 02:27:11 PM »
God. they are so MILD about Trump in those!!!  More like "just someone we don't like" rather than the absolute hatred they have now.

2+ years of being foiled.
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« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2019, 02:37:07 PM »
2+ years of being foiled.

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Re: How to get Mueller Report
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2019, 04:06:52 PM »
Gracious. They're operating fast and furious wanting all the details to come out. I guess they're really concerned that the president is in cahoots with our enemies. Maybe they think he gave them pallets full of cash or something. It's kind of been gots me wondering about things to the point that I'm having to wipe my sweaty brow like with a rag.
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Re: How to get Mueller Report
« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2019, 05:22:49 PM »
Do spirit guides have brows and if so do they actually sweat?

Not so much, but I suppose I might if I were a son of a gun walking fast and furious. If I were to sweat you could bet a big pallet of cash money that I would wipe it...like with a rag.
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Re: How to get Mueller Report
« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2019, 05:45:49 PM »
Does anyone have some excellent search skills for the DUmp?  I have a couple of things I’d be really interested in knowing.

1.  When was the first mention of impeachment against DJT at the DUmp?

2.  How many times has the word impeachment or impeach been used at the DUmp since that day?

An inquiring mind wants to know.

KC

My best estimates:

1) Probably at approximately 1:30 A.M. CT on November 9th, 2016.

2) Impeach has been typed seven million times at the DUmp.  Only a third with Cheeto stained chubby fingers though.
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Re: How to get Mueller Report
« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2019, 07:13:37 PM »
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How to get Mueller Report (and underlying evidence) and tax returns ...

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