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"The One" Chooses His Two : Biden
« on: August 23, 2008, 03:50:54 AM »


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Guido laughed this morning, Obama has chosen the the man who admired Neil Kinnock's oratory so much he copied Kinnock's speech - word for word. This will be Biden's second try for the White House, the first ended badly in 1988 when he was caught lifting lines from Kinnock's speech.

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Biden dropped out of the 2008 race for the Democratic presidential nomination after a poor finish in the Iowa caucuses, but not before saying "I am not running for vice president, I would not accept it if anyone offered it to me. The fact of the matter is I'd rather stay as chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee than be vice president." That quote will not hurt as much as other quotes McCain's campaign will be replaying extensively - Biden gave a hard-hitting TV interview during his abortive 2008 run where he laid into Obama as too inexperienced to be President.

http://www.order-order.com/2008/08/one-chooses-his-two-biden-kinnock.html



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Re: "The One" Chooses His Two : Biden
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2008, 05:14:21 AM »
Here's an analysis of the "choice:"

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Saturday, August 23, 2008
Analysis: Biden pick shows lack of confidence

By RON FOURNIER

The candidate of change went with the status quo.

In picking Sen. Joe Biden to be his running mate, Barack Obama sought to shore up his weakness _ inexperience in office and on foreign policy _ rather than underscore his strength as a new-generation candidate defying political conventions.

He picked a 35-year veteran of the Senate _ the ultimate insider _ rather than a candidate from outside Washington, such as Govs. Tim Kaine of Virginia or Kathleen Sebelius of Kansas; or from outside his party, such as Sen. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska; or from outside the mostly white male club of vice presidential candidates. Hillary Rodham Clinton didn't even make his short list.

The picks say something profound about Obama: For all his self-confidence, the 47-year-old Illinois senator worried that he couldn't beat Republican John McCain without help from a seasoned politician willing to attack. The Biden selection is the next logistical step in an Obama campaign that has become more negative _ a strategic decision that may be necessary but threatens to run counter to his image.

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http://townhall.com/news/politics-elections/2008/08/23/analysis_biden_pick_shows_lack_of_confidence
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Re: "The One" Chooses His Two : Biden
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2008, 05:42:36 AM »
I am still  :rotf: at this pick. Wow, what a buzzkill for Obama's hyper-energized and youthful base. Welcome to politics, chumps.  :tongue:
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Re: "The One" Chooses His Two : Biden
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2008, 06:04:58 AM »
A gun grabber. Should have plenty of tape showing his hatred of guns. This will help.
Come to think of it, unions do create jobs. Companies have to hire two workers to do the work of one.

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Re: "The One" Chooses His Two : Biden
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2008, 06:05:12 AM »
I am still  :rotf: at this pick. Wow, what a buzzkill for Obama's hyper-energized and youthful base. Welcome to politics, chumps.  :tongue:

Between the Clintons and Biden giving their speeches at the convention there may not be enough time for Obama to give one. :rotf:

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Re: "The One" Chooses His Two : Biden
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2008, 06:18:11 AM »
http://www.issues2000.org/Senate/Joe_Biden.htm


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Joe Biden on Gun Control   


Click here for 8 full quotes on Gun Control OR background on Gun Control.
Keep assault weapons ban; close gun show loophole. (Apr 2007)
Voted NO on prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers. (Jul 2005)
Voted NO on banning lawsuits against gun manufacturers for gun violence. (Mar 2004)
Voted YES on background checks at gun shows. (May 1999)
Voted NO on more penalties for gun & drug violations. (May 1999)
Voted NO on loosening license & background checks at gun shows. (May 1999)
Voted NO on maintaining current law: guns sold without trigger locks. (Jul 1998)
Rated F by the NRA, indicating a pro-gun control voting record. (Dec 2003)
 

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Re: "The One" Chooses His Two : Biden
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2008, 06:25:52 AM »
Joe "Xerox" Biden.

Old. Wrinkly. White Guy.

Yeah that'll energize the Dem base.
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Re: "The One" Chooses His Two : Biden
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2008, 06:33:59 AM »
I am still  :rotf: at this pick. Wow, what a buzzkill for Obama's hyper-energized and youthful base. Welcome to politics, chumps.  :tongue:

Between the Clintons and Biden giving their speeches at the convention there may not be enough time for Obama to give one. :rotf:

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Re: "The One" Chooses His Two : Biden
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2008, 06:37:39 AM »
That choice sews up Delaware's 3 electoral votes for Obama.  :whatever:
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Re: "The One" Chooses His Two : Biden
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2008, 06:40:22 AM »
Oh boy!  TWO senators on ONE ticket!  Could it get any sweeter?

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Re: "The One" Chooses His Two : Biden
« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2008, 06:41:26 AM »
That choice sews up Delaware's 3 electoral votes for Obama.  :whatever:

He doesn't bring anything to the table. obama had the NE sector anyway. :mental:
Come to think of it, unions do create jobs. Companies have to hire two workers to do the work of one.

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Re: "The One" Chooses His Two : Biden
« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2008, 07:05:22 AM »
No wonder democrats are called DUmmy's.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden

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Main article: Joe Biden presidential campaign, 1988
In 1987, Joe Biden ran as a Democratic presidential candidate, formally declaring his candidacy at the Wilmington train station on June 9, 1987. In his speech, he challenged Americans to step beyond the materialism of the Reagan years. When the campaign began, Biden was considered a potentially strong candidate because of his moderate image, his supposed appeal to Baby Boomers, his fundraising appeal[25] (Biden's $1.7 million raised in the first quarter of 1987 was more than any other candidate, including the then front-runner, Gary Hart), his high profile position as chair of the Senate Judiciary committee during the Robert Bork confirmation hearings, and, perhaps above all, his soaring oratory. Biden often seemed to try to inspire the same hope and idealism associated with 1960s liberals such as Robert Kennedy, especially as related to civil rights. He received considerable attention in the summer of 1986 when he excoriated Secretary of State George Shultz at a Senate Hearing because of the Reagan administration's support of South Africa, which continued to support a system of Apartheid. By August 1987, however, Biden's campaign had already begun to lag behind those of Michael Dukakis and Richard Gephardt.[25]

Then in September 1987, the campaign ran into serious trouble when he was accused of plagiarizing a speech by Neil Kinnock, then-leader of the British Labour Party.[26] Though Biden had correctly credited the original author in all speeches but one, the one where he failed to make mention of the originator was caught on video.[27] Within days, it was also discovered that, while a first year law student at Syracuse Law School, Biden had plagiarized a law review article in a class paper he wrote. Though the then-dean of the law school, as well as Biden's former professor, played down the incident of plagiarism, they did find that Biden drew "chunks of heavy legal prose directly from" the article in question. Biden said the act was inadvertent due to his not knowing the proper rules of citation, and Biden was permitted to retake the course after receiving a grade of F in the course, which was subsequently dropped from his record when he retook the class. Biden also released at the same time the record of his grades as an undergraduate which were C's and D's with the exception of two A's in physical education, one B in a course on English writers and an F in ROTC during his first three semesters.[28] His grades improved later in his undergraduate career but were not exceptional.[28] Further, when questioned by a New Hampshire resident about his grades in law school Biden had claimed falsely to have graduated in the "top half" of his class, (when he actually graduated 76th in a class of 85) that he had attended on a full scholarship, and had received three degrees.[29] In fact he had received two majors, History and Political Science, and a single B.A., as well as a half scholarship based on financial need.[29]

Faced with these revelations, Biden withdrew from the nomination race on September 23, 1987, saying his candidacy had been overrun by "the exaggerated shadow" of his mistakes.[30] After Biden withdrew from the race it was learned that the Dukakis campaign had secretly made a video showcasing the Biden/Kinnock comparison and distributed it to news outlets. Dukakis fired John Sasso, his campaign manager and long-time Chief of Staff.[31][32]

Come to think of it, unions do create jobs. Companies have to hire two workers to do the work of one.

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Re: "The One" Chooses His Two : Biden
« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2008, 07:09:46 AM »
That choice sews up Delaware's 3 electoral votes for Obama.  :whatever:

He doesn't bring anything to the table. obama had the NE sector anyway. :mental:

Not THIS state, partner.
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Re: "The One" Chooses His Two : Biden
« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2008, 07:14:25 AM »
That choice sews up Delaware's 3 electoral votes for Obama.  :whatever:

He doesn't bring anything to the table. obama had the NE sector anyway. :mental:

Not THIS state, partner.

Isn't obama leading NH in the polls, 45-44%  ?
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Re: "The One" Chooses His Two : Biden
« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2008, 07:19:40 AM »
He was also leading the Dem primary polls.  Your point?

I'm telling you, there are enough Republicans who are getting out to vote this time to throw out our uber-liberal moonbat Congresscritters Che-Porter and Hodes and keep Sununu over Queen Jeanne the Spending Machine, that NH will go Republican in November.
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