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Sat Mar 2, 2019, 08:31 AM
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Top Foreign Affairs Dem rebukes Ilhan Omar for 'vile anti-Semitic slur'


Source: Politico

Rep. Ilhan Omar is drawing criticism again for comments about Israel
— this time suggesting that pro-Israel activists and lawmakers hold “allegiance to a foreign country.”

In a lengthy and blistering rebuke late Friday, Rep. Eliot Engel, the chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, said Omar’s remarks amounted to a “vile anti-Semitic slur” and called on the Minnesota Democrat to apologize“

I welcome debate in Congress based on the merits of policy, but it’s unacceptable and deeply offensive to call into question the loyalty of fellow American citizens because of their political views, including support for the U.S.-Israel relationship,” said Engel (D-N.Y.), who is Jewish. “Her comments were outrageous and deeply hurtful, and I ask that she retract them, apologize, and commit to making her case on policy issues without resorting to attacks that have no place in the Foreign Affairs Committee or the House of Representatives."

A spokesman for Omar did not immediately respond to a request for comment.


Read more: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/story/2019/03/01/ilhan-omar-anti-semitic-slur-1199495
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142277971

The democrats have spent a lot of time promoting and puffing up these new anti-semitic Muslim representatives, now their hateful beliefs are out in the open.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)Sat Mar 2, 2019, 08:40 AM
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1. Just saying,

The only way we lose in 2020 is if we fight among ourselves.
So when you witness anti-semitism, just keep your mouth shut and don't make any waves.  A recipe for victory.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)Sat Mar 2, 2019, 08:49 AM
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3. Worrisome.

Especially since this is the second time she has crossed the line in this same vein.

At the very least she needs to understand how to be diplomatic about her belief that the Israeli lobby is too strong. At the worst, she may indeed be antisemitic and following an agenda accordingly.
Face facts, shitgibbon, this is the worst-case scenario.

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Response to Chemisse (Reply #3)Sat Mar 2, 2019, 08:57 AM
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4. Agreed! Such slurs and language only give further cover to those to whose influence Omar objects. nt
Translation:  What she is doing is helping those Jews and we can't have that.


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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)Sat Mar 2, 2019, 09:09 AM
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6. Dividing Democrats Not a Good Move

JRep. Engel needs to consider the long term best interests of our Democratic Party. Dividing us especially at this critical time is not a winning idea. We need to take a long look at this type of behavior and reject it. Who is he serving? Not the Democratic Party!
Who is he serving?  Let me guess--THE JEWS!!! 

Maybe the long term best interests of the democrat party is better served by rebuking vile anti-semitic slurs.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)Sat Mar 2, 2019, 09:25 AM
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11. The same Engel who got $150,000 in pro-Israel industry campaigns donations last year?

We're talking about this guy, right?
Mrs Corpio chimes in with an insinuation.

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Response to MrScorpio (Reply #11)Sat Mar 2, 2019, 09:36 AM
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16. What are you insinuating?

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Response to George II (Reply #16)Sat Mar 2, 2019, 09:53 AM
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21. I'm insinuating that Engel knows exactly what side of his bread is buttered...

That someone who gets thousands of dollars in campaign donations from pro-Israel groups would do everything that he could to keep that spigot flowing.

This is way more about money than it is about anything else.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)Sat Mar 2, 2019, 10:08 AM
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27. Folks from Israel have become way to sensitive.

It is perfectly legit to call out bad behavior by Israel and their pathetic criminal leader Netanyahu. It ok to say that some Americans have allegiance to foreign countries. It’s true. It is not saying anything about Jewish people or their religion. Stop with the bs about this being anti Semitic.

All this is is racism against Muslims.
Omar is the real victim here.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)Sat Mar 2, 2019, 10:08 AM
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27. Folks from Israel have become way to sensitive.

It is perfectly legit to call out bad behavior by Israel and their pathetic criminal leader Netanyahu. It ok to say that some Americans have allegiance to foreign countries. It’s true. It is not saying anything about Jewish people or their religion. Stop with the bs about this being anti Semitic.

All this is is racism against Muslims.

Let's talk a different look at that statement
It is perfectly legit to call out bad behavior by Blacks and their pathetic criminal leader leaders.
It is perfectly legit to call out bad behavior by Hispanics and their pathetic criminal leader leaders.
It is perfectly legit to call out bad behavior by Socialists and their pathetic criminal leader leaders.
It is perfectly legit to call out bad behavior by Communists and their pathetic criminal leader leaders.

All this is is racism against while males.
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They still have Gov. Blackface Moonwalk from Virginia, a rapist as Lt. Gov, and a blackface Attorney General they haven't dealt with. The keeping your mouth shut, not make waves, and it will go away seems to work with the racist, Jew-haters that make up the Dem party.

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Star Member Chemisse (28,119 posts)
3. Worrisome.

Especially since this is the second time she has crossed the line in this same vein.

At the very least she needs to understand how to be diplomatic about her belief that the Israeli lobby is too strong. At the worst, she may indeed be antisemitic and following an agenda accordingly.

It was the second time the MSM couldn't cover up. She's said the same kind of Crap for decades, but the national MSM kept mum, a "local story".

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4. Agreed! Such slurs and language only give further cover to those to whose influence Omar objects. nt

 Unsurprisingly, FreepFryer is worried about Teh Joooooos rather than Omar's antisemitism.

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6. Dividing Democrats Not a Good Move

JRep. Engel needs to consider the long term best interests of our Democratic Party. Dividing us especially at this critical time is not a winning idea. We need to take a long look at this type of behavior and reject it. Who is he serving? Not the Democratic Party!

Yeah! Democrat Party uber alles! Don't worry about antisemites unless they go off the D Party Plantation!

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11. The same Engel who got $150,000 in pro-Israel industry campaigns donations last year?

We're talking about this guy, right?

Yeah! He got JOOOOOOO money, therefore could not be right that antisemitism is wrong.

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27. Folks from Israel have become way to sensitive.

Absolutely! Forget the centuries of deadly persecution in virtually every country in Europe!

Forget the Holocaust!

Forget the four wars in which Arab nations vastly outnumbering Israel tried to wipe it off the map!

Forget the half century of US Progressive academics limiting admissions of Jews to top universities!

Forget the numerous antisemitic stereotypes Progs and other Jew-haters sprinkle throughout their rhetoric!

Forget that a Jew walking across commons areas in many US universities wearing a yarmulke does so risking life and limb!

Jews are too damn sensitive when insulted!!!

Because a DU-member who chances to see this post may wonder, no. I am not Jewish, ethnically or religiously. And any DU-member who saw this post and wondered about that, shame on you!
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11. The same Engel who got $150,000 in pro-Israel industry campaigns donations last year?

We're talking about this guy, right?

I notice Mr. Corpulent didn't point out that Engel is Jewish, the Grandson of Russian Jews who left the Ukraine during Czarist times. Given his age, they probably fled the pogroms that happened shortly before WW1. Does Mr. Corpulent know what a pogrom was, and how it would affect one's family culture? It might make someone like Engel "sensitive"!

I may be a goy, but that DU-thread disgusts me.
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27. Folks from Israel have become way to sensitive.
Oh, puh-leeze! Considering the snowflakes are triggered by everything from "misgendering" to statues I can't believe DUpipo think anyone else is too sensitive.

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8Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)Sat Mar 2, 2019, 09:09 AM
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6. Dividing DemoCRAPS Not a Good idea. We beg to đèfèr. Atta  boy Hozay!!!
JRep. Engel needs to consider the long term best interests of our DemocRAT Party. Ya, to hèll with your constituents, party über alles.  Sieg Heil!!! Dividing us especially at this critical time is not a winning idea. Yes it ìs. (For us) We need to take a long look at this type of behavior and reject it. Ve haf vays of making him cooperate.  :nunchuck: :zap: :nutkick:  Who is he serving? Maybe the folks that elected him? Not the DemoCRAPic Party! The audacity of thàt àsshole makes my anus twitch.   :bawl:
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Oh, puh-leeze! Considering the snowflakes are triggered by everything from "misgendering" to statues I can't believe DUpipo think anyone else is too sensitive.

Bingo!  That's exactly what I was thinking as I scrolled through this post.
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Jews will still vote 90+% for the democrats. 
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Jews will still vote 90+% for the democrats.

That's what I can't understand. However maybe that will change as they get more socialist / fascistic.

It is time for the Jews to wake up to see what they are supporting.
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The Dems campaign for 2020

1. Kill babies up to and including post birth.  (Apparently, they are clueless to how many black Americans and Hispanics are pro-life)

2. Raise taxes.

3. Ban automobiles, planes and meat.  (I'm just going to leave that one out there)

4. Trash Israel.  (See #1 above, apparently they don't understand how many of their voters are Jewish)

    Now when you lose on this platform, the Dems are going to be looking for all kinds of excuses as to why they lost.  Let me make it simple for you.  "You're idiots.  You're catering to about 20% of the population.  Half of which aren't bright enough to know how to vote.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)Sat Mar 2, 2019, 10:08 AM
lancelyons (839 posts)
27. Folks from Israel have become way to sensitive.

It is perfectly legit to call out bad behavior by Israel and their pathetic criminal leader Netanyahu. It ok to say that some Americans have allegiance to foreign countries. It’s true. It is not saying anything about Jewish people or their religion. Stop with the bs about this being anti Semitic.

All this is is racism against Muslims.

Sigh. Muslim is not a race. It is a religion.
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The Dems campaign for 2020

1. Kill babies up to and including post birth.  (Apparently, they are clueless to how many black Americans and Hispanics are pro-life)

2. Raise taxes.

3. Ban automobiles, planes and meat.  (I'm just going to leave that one out there)

4. Trash Israel.  (See #1 above, apparently they don't understand how many of their voters are Jewish)

    Now when you lose on this platform, the Dems are going to be looking for all kinds of excuses as to why they lost.  Let me make it simple for you.  "You're idiots.  You're catering to about 20% of the population.  Half of which aren't bright enough to know how to vote.

sadly they wont lose.  Trump's chances are good but The GOPe is going to lose the senate and gain but only slightly in the HOR.

1. You and i would hope that this is a losing issue but it will probably be a winner for the donks with actual voters... 53/47.

2. this will win big time. i'd say 62/38 because the educati...er indoctrination school system has attained prominence.  Socialism is the new normal.

3. Come on now. THis just makes sense to save Goddess Ghia. Look at the stats for young people and I say this goes 55/45.

4. The fact of the matter is no matter how anti-Semitic the donks get, the best we can hope for is a 20% ceiling on republican jewish voters. 

These are the sad facts of America in 2020.

1. Have an escape plan.

2. Have lots of ammo.
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lancelyons (839 posts)
27. Folks from Israel have become way to sensitive.

It is perfectly legit to call out bad behavior by Israel and their pathetic criminal leader Netanyahu. It ok to say that some Americans have allegiance to foreign countries. It’s true. It is not saying anything about Jewish people or their religion. Stop with the bs about this being anti Semitic.

All this is is racism against Muslims.

Reality in NYC tells a different story:

Anti-Semitic Hate Crimes Surge in New York City, NYPD Says

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During a Wednesday press conference on crime statistics, NYPD Commissioner James P. O’Neill said the increased anti-Semitic reports are of concern.

“The increased reports of swastikas and other criminal mischief here in the 5 boroughs absolutely concerns us. And none of it, none of it will ever be tolerated in New York City,” he said.

According to NYPD data, "while New York City was on pace to have a lower number of hate crimes in 2018 than 2017, October say a notable uptick, particularly in anti-Semitic hate crimes."
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Anti-Semitic based biased crimes have seen an increase of 29 — rising to 159 incidents during the time period ending Nov. 4 in comparison to the same time last year, according to NYPD statistics.
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After anti-Semitic crimes, sexual orientation hate crimes are the most common with 40 incidents taking place so far this year. There has been no increase since last year.

African Americans have seen an increase compared to last year — from 30 to 37 incidents — making it the group with the third highest number of hate crimes against them.

Note those numbers for the other two hate crime types in the top three. Antisemitic hate crimes are double the anti-black and "sexual orientation" hate crimes! And the NYT dropped an additional turd into DU's punch bowl:

Is It Safe to Be Jewish in New York?

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Contrary to what are surely the prevailing assumptions, anti-Semitic incidents have constituted half of all hate crimes in New York this year, according to the Police Department. To put that figure in context, there have been four times as many crimes motivated by bias against Jews — 142 in all — as there have against blacks. Hate crimes against Jews have outnumbered hate crimes targeted at transgender people by a factor of 20.
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If anti-Semitism bypasses consideration as a serious problem in New York, it is to some extent because it refuses to conform to an easy narrative with a single ideological enemy. During the past 22 months, not one person caught or identified as the aggressor in an anti-Semitic hate crime has been associated with a far right-wing group, Mark Molinari, commanding officer of the police department’s Hate Crimes Task Force, told me.
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Of course, not everyone is caught. And, obviously, white supremacists are driving anti-Semitic rhetoric online. It is just that sort of hate speech that the Anti-Defamation League views as largely responsible for the near doubling in bias incidents toward Jewish children in schools across the country last year.

For all the ADL's politicized rhetoric and DU-folks' stereotypes, zero of NYC's ~160 antisemitic hate crimes in 2018 were committed by eeeeeeee-vile reich-wingers. As I keep saying, when facts contradict your narrative, it's your narrative that has a problem.
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They still have Gov. Blackface Moonwalk from Virginia, a rapist as Lt. Gov, and a blackface Attorney General they haven't dealt with. The keeping your mouth shut, not make waves, and it will go away seems to work with the racist, Jew-haters that make up the Dem party.

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They dealt with it by ignoring it.
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