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An Oregon county sheriff’s office has condemned the actions of three of its deputies who filmed and laughed at an Army veteran as he died of a drug overdose in a padded jail cell.

The veteran, 31-year-old Bryan Perry, served in the Iraq War, was honorably discharged and received a Purple Heart, his lawyer told local media outlets. Perry’s family has filed a wrongful death lawsuit against Clackamas County.

Two videos were filmed on the deputies’ cell phones in November 2016. In them, viewers can hear the jailers laughing at a man as he flails around in agony.

“We should go show this to his girlfriend and be like, ‘You love this?’ ” one of the deputies said on the recording.

Perry and his girlfriend were arrested together. Prior to the girlfriend being escorted to a separate holding tank for women, she yelled, “I love you, Bryan.”

Perry yelled back, “I love you, too.”

That information comes from 18 pages of police records that the Clackamas County Sheriff’s Office released this week.

Perry was being held in the jail cell after allegedly violating his probation, according to the records.

Sheriff Craig Roberts issued a statement Thursday:

“I cannot comment on the pending lawsuit, which focuses primarily on Mr. Perry’s medical care provided by the Jail medical contractor," he said. “But I will say this: The laughter, substance, and tone of several comments heard from my employees in that video were inappropriate, and do not conform to our professional standards.”

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Although I carry around no special compassion for drug abusers, they generally end up there due to rather serious personal issues.
Call it what we may and make them accept responsibility in the end, but that's no justification for for denying compassion for a human in distress.
Unfortunately, this attitude is all to common among jailers and correction officers. They quite commonly wind up jaded after so much exposure to the dark side of society, seeing things we really don't want to see and dealing with people when they are at their worst. But that still cannot be accepted as an excuse for this sort of behavior.
Hard to say if there was any neglect involved here technically, but I'd say from seeing this little bit, the guy should have been in the padded cell while waiting to be restrained and get medical attention...  cold-hearted comments and behavior aside.

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IF they were laughing instead of getting medical assistance to the dying guy those deputies belong behind bars, not just defendants in a lawsuit.
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Although I carry around no special compassion for drug abusers, they generally end up there due to rather serious personal issues.
Call it what we may and make them accept responsibility in the end, but that's no justification for for denying compassion for a human in distress.
Unfortunately, this attitude is all to common among jailers and correction officers. They quite commonly wind up jaded after so much exposure to the dark side of society, seeing things we really don't want to see and dealing with people when they are at their worst. But that still cannot be accepted as an excuse for this sort of behavior.
Hard to say if there was any neglect involved here technically, but I'd say from seeing this little bit, the guy should have been in the padded cell while waiting to be restrained and get medical attention...  cold-hearted comments and behavior aside.

The problem is that a lot of veterans are turning to illegal drugs to cope with their PTSD and the demons in their head from what they saw and experienced down range.

I'm guessing that's what was going on with this kid.  For whatever reason he either chose not to get help at the VA that could have prevented all of this IMHO.
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The problem is that a lot of veterans are turning to illegal drugs to cope with their PTSD and the demons in their head from what they saw and experienced down range.

I'm guessing that's what was going on with this kid.  For whatever reason he either chose not to get help at the VA that could have prevented all of this IMHO.

Thats what I'm getting at.
"Most" people dont wind up addicted to the crap just just to have something to do.
Yea, it's their own fault in the end, but if blaming is going to be done at all, it should come after the assist... not before. No one is gonna quit the crap just because it's their own fault.
If it were one of my kids, I'd kick their ass AFTER I got them off the stuff

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Thats what I'm getting at.
"Most" people dont wind up addicted to the crap just just to have something to do.
Yea, it's their own fault in the end, but if blaming is going to be done at all, it should come after the assist... not before. No one is gonna quit the crap just because it's their own fault.
If it were one of my kids, I'd kick their ass AFTER I got them off the stuff

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Although I carry around no special compassion for drug abusers, they generally end up there due to rather serious personal issues.
Call it what we may and make them accept responsibility in the end, but that's no justification for for denying compassion for a human in distress.
Unfortunately, this attitude is all to common among jailers and correction officers. They quite commonly wind up jaded after so much exposure to the dark side of society, seeing things we really don't want to see and dealing with people when they are at their worst. But that still cannot be accepted as an excuse for this sort of behavior.
Hard to say if there was any neglect involved here technically, but I'd say from seeing this little bit, the guy should have been in the padded cell while waiting to be restrained and get medical attention...  cold-hearted comments and behavior aside.

I can tell you having seen them a gazillion times, that is a really bad bath salts trip.  The comments are out of line, and it should be dealt with by their supervisors... but it's really nothing more than that.  We've got 3 cells especially for the situations when they are that bad.  We 5 way them to the bed (hands, ankles, waist, and then they get a helmet because they'll start slamming their head into a wall or even on the padding that's on the bed.. which is still gonna hurt) and an officer gets assigned to literally just sit and watch them.  It's a PITA and we'd rather not do it, as we have to go in every 2hrs, unstrap them and give them a 15min break, then strap them back down.... needless to say, it is almost ALWAYS a fight.

I get it.. I've been in their situation more times than I really care to think... not saying I don't agree that it was inappropriate, but I get it.  As long as they weren't doing that while the man was actually dying... this is really just a situation that needs to be addressed by their superiors.

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The problem is that a lot of veterans are turning to illegal drugs to cope with their PTSD and the demons in their head from what they saw and experienced down range.

I'm guessing that's what was going on with this kid.  For whatever reason he either chose not to get help at the VA that could have prevented all of this IMHO.

That's a whole other issue... The VA can help, but just in my general observations, the VA is part of the problem rather than the solution.  A lot of times when the local homeless get arrested, they don't have much on them, but they usually have their meds from the VA.  Some of these guys will be on 15, 16 different medications... and as a general observation (I'm no doctor obviously).. they might need one or two.

Example, as this is probably one of the more common ones I see and have tracked all this nonsense down on nights of boredom... A guy has high blood pressure

The VA doc gives him Lisinopril
Then they complain of dizziness, so they usually give them Meclazine or Promethazine
Then Meclazine causes them to have a dry mouth...
They then give them Evoxac, which then causes loss of appetite..... so they give them something for that..

And it just keeps going and going... When if a doctor with some sense had looked at this from the beginning.. gave the guy something for dizziness and said.. "You're going to have to drink a lot of water because this will make you thirsty"... it could have stopped right there.  Like I said, 15, 16 different drugs is very very common with those guys.  And that's just the ones w/ basic problems like diabetes and high blood pressure.. don't even get me started on the ones getting their psych drugs at the VA.. it's the same thing.

When you add in psych problems and other issues permeate's almost all of these guys who are homeless... rampant drug use, alcohol abuse, then the VA is drugging them up like there's no tomorrow... It's amazing they live through the weekend, let alone months or even years on the street.

I'm not saying I have the answers, and I completely recognize there's a problem... but I don't think the VA is the answer... I think we really need to get back to asylum type housing and involuntary holds for these folks, rather than trying to constantly treat them on an outpatient basis (which is essentially what the VA does)


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I was never in the military, so I'm not going to pretend I know what soldiers have gone through. But you really didn't hear about this stuff as much until and since Vietnam.

I mean, in WW1 you can definitely read about shell shock, which is a type of PTSD. I personally just never heard much about these types of things from vets of WW2. Maybe they turned to the bottle and were abusive towards their families or something. Maybe that was their outlet.

And it could just be that with modern media we're made more aware today. No doubt after every war in the history of the world there's always been soldiers who came back mentally messed up.

I hope these men and women seek help and can overcome, or at least learn to deal with, their life altering situations.

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