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Offline dutch508

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If all finance Bills originate in the House...
« on: April 20, 2020, 05:34:01 PM »
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If all finance Bills originate in the House, why is the Senate passing these Bills first?
I think that the answer is obvious. McConnell rules the Senate as if it were his kingdom, and his GOP colleagues follow his orders. SO by making certain that the Senate passes these various relief Bills, often with minimal or no Democratic input, McConnell can frame the debate and limit the debate.

Thus, if the House has significant issues with the GOP Senate plans, McConnell can frame the House as being obstructionist.

DUmpmonkiez again show that they have no clue how the government works...

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Star Member Wounded Bear (35,510 posts)

1. Revenue bills originate in the House...

if it doesn't include taxing, either house can initiate a spending bill.

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2. I understand that, but the GOP is pushing their own Bills fast so that the Democrats are forced to respond, and debate, on GOP terms. And when the House speaks of the need for discussion, the GOP claims that there is no time to delay.

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In the United States Congress, a bill is proposed legislation under consideration by either of the two chambers of Congress: the House of Representatives or the Senate. Anyone elected to either body can propose a bill. After both chambers approve a bill, it is sent to the President of the United States for consideration.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_(United_States_Congress)

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Re: If all finance Bills originate in the House...
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2020, 05:41:37 PM »
>>Star Member guillaumeb (40,788 posts)

2. I understand that, but the GOP is pushing their own Bills fast so that the Democrats are forced to respond, and debate, on GOP terms. And when the House speaks of the need for discussion, the GOP claims that there is no time to delay.<<

The shoe is on the other hand now, eh?
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Re: If all finance Bills originate in the House...
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2020, 06:27:16 PM »
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2. I understand that, but the GOP is pushing their own Bills fast so that the Democrats are forced to respond, and debate, on GOP terms. ...

#Resist foot-dragging and delay tactics have consequences. One is that initiative is surrendered to the other side.
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Re: If all finance Bills originate in the House...
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2020, 06:39:17 PM »
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Re: If all finance Bills originate in the House...
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2020, 08:14:51 PM »
I don’t think they remember how bad Harry Reid was to the right.

Having said that, if I were in the house or the senate and the democratics tried to add anything to these relief bills that had nothing to do with actual relief, I’d vote no, then I’d be on every social media site and news site that would listen. If the republicans cave to this bullshit again we’ve learned nothing.

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Re: If all finance Bills originate in the House...
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2020, 05:10:17 PM »
Another fine example of the so called "Smartest People in the World" and they don't understand or know basic civics.  They seem to earn the DUmmie name everyday.
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Re: If all finance Bills originate in the House...
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2020, 05:12:48 PM »
Two words ASSHOLES:  Obama Care.

Please eat a bag of dicks and then start on a bag of anuses.
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Re: If all finance Bills originate in the House...
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2020, 07:03:40 PM »
Quote from: jukin on April 21, 2020, 05:12:48 PM

Please eat a bag of dicks and then start on a bag of anuses.

To be fair, that is their normal daily regimen. I'd recommend something more punitive.
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