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Was Jimmy Carter the most underrated president in history?
« on: June 06, 2018, 10:24:48 AM »
Regardless of this revisionist histoy by DUmmy, Carter is easily in the bottom third of all time.

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Was Jimmy Carter the most underrated president in history?
I thought this was an interesting article in the NYT. It is a review of a book about the Carter presidency by Stuart E. Eizenstat, Carter's White House domestic policy adviser. Eizenstat argues that Carter's presidency was more consequential than is typically thought.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/05/books/review/president-carter-stuart-eizenstat.html

I thought some DUers might find this interesting.

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he was smart enough to understand separations of church and state. He, in hindsight, was great. I believe that Gore would have been even better as a PRESIDENT

Too religious?

It is hilarious to read such blather.  Carter has been an honorable gentleman post presidency, even though I disagree with his ideology on politics.

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Re: Was Jimmy Carter the most underrated president in history?
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2018, 10:36:38 AM »
Gore, as with Hiliary, never was President, nor will they ever be. 
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Re: Was Jimmy Carter the most underrated president in history?
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2018, 10:40:16 AM »
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Eizenstat argues that Carter's presidency was more consequential than is typically thought.

His non-response to the ouster of the US ally, the Shah of Iran allowed the rise of an anti-American hard-line Islamic government to take over Iran. Decades later we are still dealing with the mess that caused.

So yeah, Carter was more consequential than people often give him credit for, but not in a good way.

Carter and Obama both did something similar. They were both so bad that they gave us much better presidents following their terms in office: Reagan and Trump.

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Re: Was Jimmy Carter the most underrated president in history?
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2018, 11:11:52 AM »

They don't seem to recall:

Malaise
Wear a sweater
Gas lines
And about two dozen other catastrophes.
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Re: Was Jimmy Carter the most underrated president in history?
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2018, 11:14:31 AM »
I agree with thundley4.  This comment by the primitive:

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…..Carter's presidency was more consequential than is typically thought.

I think there's a problem with word usage here.

"Consequential" does not necessarily mean "good" or "beneficial."
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Re: Was Jimmy Carter the most underrated president in history?
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2018, 11:18:58 AM »
They don't seem to recall:

Malaise
Wear a sweater
Gas lines
And about two dozen other catastrophes.

Hyperinflation; in those days, products for sale were typically individually price-tagged, and I'm sure that some here will remember the can of peas at the grocery store, for example, with its top sticker being $1.39, and if one tore that off, it'd reveal the price the preceding week was $1.09, and then if one pulled that off, down to the third tag, the price from the week before that would be 99 cents, and by the time one got to the fourth tag, it'd be 79 cents from merely a month ago.

Until God interrupted things and gave us Ronald Reagan, we were definitely headed for Weimar Days under Jimmy Carter.
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Re: Was Jimmy Carter the most underrated president in history?
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2018, 11:24:27 AM »
They don't seem to recall:

Malaise
Wear a sweater
Gas lines
And about two dozen other catastrophes.

The worst unemployment since the Great Depression.

It shouldn't have been any surprise that the challenger Ronald Reagan defeated the incumbent Jimmy "Herb" Carter by the exact same percentage of a landslide in 1980 that the challenger Franklin Roosevelt defeated the incumbent Herbert "Jimmy" Hoover in 1932.

Everybody always talks about the massive presidential landslide of 1984, forgetting that 1980 had been a massive landslide too, but just not quite as much.
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Re: Was Jimmy Carter the most underrated president in history?
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2018, 11:25:27 AM »
And his classy brother who liked to pis on the runway and had his own brand of beer! :-)
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Re: Was Jimmy Carter the most underrated president in history?
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2018, 11:30:32 AM »
Frankly, this picture is kind of an apt visual metaphor for Carter's Presidency:





Carter was way under-prepared, took on way more than he could handle, went about it unwisely, and failed.

I sympathize with the pain he was experiencing at that moment, but that picture sums up Carter's Presidency, IMO.
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Re: Was Jimmy Carter the most underrated president in history?
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2018, 12:07:57 PM »
They don't seem to recall:

Malaise
Wear a sweater
Gas lines
And about two dozen other catastrophes.

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Re: Was Jimmy Carter the most underrated president in history?
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2018, 12:58:38 PM »
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Was Jimmy Carter the most underrated president in history?

Yes. In 1976, many people underrated just what a failure he would be.

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Re: Was Jimmy Carter the most underrated president in history?
« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2018, 02:31:30 PM »
They don't seem to recall:

Malaise
Wear a sweater
Gas lines
And about two dozen other catastrophes.

At some point, I asked a trivia question at my show regarding Carter's sweater comment.  My memories of his era were actual gas rationing lines.  And reading about it subsequently.
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Re: Was Jimmy Carter the most underrated president in history?
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2018, 03:34:04 PM »
Jimmuh can rest easy knowing he's now the second worst President
we've ever had.
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Re: Was Jimmy Carter the most underrated president in history?
« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2018, 03:52:12 PM »
Regardless of this revisionist histoy by DUmmy, Carter is easily in the bottom third of all time.

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https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210700267

Too religious?

It is hilarious to read such blather.  Carter has been an honorable gentleman post presidency, even though I disagree with his ideology on politics.


carter WAS a gentlemen.  Then he decided to get back into politics and actively dissing the USA from beyond water's edge, which USED to be verboten (and SHOULD be now) -- especially for an ex-POTUS.

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Re: Was Jimmy Carter the most underrated president in history?
« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2018, 04:36:40 PM »
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But not in a good way.
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Re: Was Jimmy Carter the most underrated president in history?
« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2018, 04:46:49 PM »
They don't seem to recall:

Malaise
Wear a sweater
Gas lines
And about two dozen other catastrophes.

I remember buying a brand new Honda Accord in 1982. Because my credit was excellent, I got the best interest rate at 21.99%. Yea. I remember Carter.
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Re: Was Jimmy Carter the most underrated president in history?
« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2018, 09:15:26 PM »
Forget Jimmuh. BILLY is the Carter who went places! Sorta...

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I agree. Of course, then he came up with Billy Beer, but I digress...
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