The edju-micational tax bouncy

[FunkyZero]

Wed May 23, 2018, 09:37 AM
Honeycombe8 (27,221 posts)

So my Trumper father says to me...how about those tax cuts, eh?
My Trumper father (no doubt looking for something good out of Trump) says to me, "How was your tax return this year? Pretty good, huh? Mine was...my taxes were so much less! How 'bout yours? Less, huh?"

Me: "No. I had to pay more this year..but I had more income, so..."
Father: "More? Well, those new tax cuts cut everyone's taxes!"
Me: "Well, the new tax cuts don't cut taxes much for the middle or working class. It's for rich people mainly."
Father: "Well, I don't care if other people get more of a cut. As long as I get a cut!"
Me: "Well, the cuts for the non-rich will be phased out over 10 years, while the ones for the rich will grow over 10 years."
Father: (silence)
Me: "But you know, the tax cuts don't take effect until 2018 tax year."
Father: "No...well....no, that's not right."
Me: "Well, yes. The tax cut bill was passed end of 2017 to take effect in 2018, except for an isolated benefit for some big businesses. Otherwise, it has no effect on 2017 taxes."
Father: "Oh."
Me: "We probably shouldn't discuss politics."
Father: "Yeah."

I'm not going to say my father is stupid. He's not. He tries to hide it, but he has a very high IQ. Apparently, being a southern Republican means you're embarrassed about being smart.

But he gets his news ONLY from Fox and other local yokel Republicons. They have no idea what is really going on in the country and with Trump and his corrupt associates.

There is no point in trying to reason with them. Can't be done. We just need to VOTE them out, and spread the word to get non-Republicons to VOTE (and to REGISTER on time, get their VOTER ID, which may mean ordering CERTIFIED COPY OF BIRTH CERTIFICATE asap).

To give a clue as to how SOME elderly people (my father is 85) view things, he doesn't care about the environment, abortions, civil rights, the economy in general except for inflation, coal mining, food stamps (except how they affect his taxes), Medicaid (except how that budget affects his taxes), or much of anything else except what affects HIM. He will be passing away soon, he figures. So there's no point in trying to get such people to see what's right, wrong, or corrupt. They only care about themselves. When I mentioned once to him how some voters only care about themselves, he said, "Well, of course." I suppose that's true. Sigh.

Updated to add: Oh, did I mention he's uber religious? One of the Bible thumping far righters we hear of? So he totes that evangelical line, whatever it is at the moment: pro-life, etc. Whatever Fox News says to tote and furthers their main cause: the here and now, money-wise. All else is lip service. How can you be religious and not revere the natural environment...the environment that God created, according to the Bible and even religious leaders?

I love my racist parents but they are RACIST... because I said so

Response to Honeycombe8 (Original post)Wed May 23, 2018, 09:43 AM
mikeysnot (3,321 posts)

1. Same here...

it's tough listening to my parents now trying to rationalize the irrational.
They thought Bill should be in jail because of Paula Jones, but Stormy is nothing.
They did not like Kerry cause he was a flip flopper. But give this dolt a pass on his changing his mind mid sentence.
They did not like Obama, well he was black and reads off a teleprompter. But think trump is brilliant when he was able to pull it off once.

An now on to family values and Trump is getting divorced fantasies...

Response to mikeysnot (Reply #1)Wed May 23, 2018, 09:50 AM
robthesocialist (22 posts)
5. Spot on
These same culture warriors of yesteryear would be screaming if a democratic president who had 3 divorces and screwed hookers while married tried to run for president. What ever happened to family values??? How do the evangelicals sleep at night???

Response to robthesocialist (Reply #5)Wed May 23, 2018, 10:21 AM
raccoon (26,192 posts)
16. DT has had 3 marriages. Isn't it only two divorces, so far? Nt

Response to raccoon (Reply #16)Wed May 23, 2018, 10:39 AM
mikeysnot (3,321 posts)

18. well if the rumors are correct
he will be on 3, and I cannot imagine someone willing to be number 4...

AND DUmpass without a job complains his tax cut was minimal...
Why do we even read these idiots anymore?

Response to Honeycombe8 (Original post)Wed May 23, 2018, 09:47 AM
robthesocialist (22 posts)
2. Awesome
Yay I can pay for a 1 year amazon prime subscription with my tax cut!!! Meanwhile, social services are cut and the nation goes deeper into debt. Sweet!

[BadCat]

****in' LIAR.

The tax cuts had NO EFFECT on this years taxes.

Why do they make up stories like this?  And the funny thing is, the rest of them, the self-proclaimed "smartest people on the internet", don't catch it.

[YupItsMe]

Just curious, wasn't Paula Jones raped, while Stormy Daniels had consensual sex and got paid very well for it.   Yes DUmmie, us normal people do see a drastic difference in the two examples.

[FiddyBeowulf]

Response to Honeycombe8 (Original post)Wed May 23, 2018, 09:43 AM
mikeysnot (3,321 posts)

1. Same here...

it's tough listening to my parents now trying to rationalize the irrational.
They thought Bill should be in jail because of Paula Jones, but Stormy is nothing.

Just curious, wasn't Paula Jones raped, while Stormy Daniels had consensual sex and got paid very well for it.   Yes DUmmie, us normal people do see a drastic difference in the two examples.

There must be a character limit in the DUmmie posts. It is the only way to explain why he stopped at Paula Jones and omitted all the other victims.

[Houstonguy34]

Funky Zero we read these people because they need to be monitored .. I strongly believe a few of those nutts will go off the deep end one day and actually try and hurt someone when Trump does not get kicked out of office.

[FunkyZero]

Funky Zero we read these people because they need to be monitored .. I strongly believe a few of those nutts will go off the deep end one day and actually try and hurt someone when Trump does not get kicked out of office.

what are you talking about, man? There have been a couple just this week alone shooing up places and people while screaming about Trump.
They are already doing it...

[freedumb2003b]

Funky Zero we read these people because they need to be monitored .. I strongly believe a few of those nutts will go off the deep end one day and actually try and hurt someone when Trump does not get kicked out of office.

They need a trigger event. I think the Red Wave in 2018 will be that trigger.

That or mueller's final report in September saying they could not find anything on Trump but mueller thinks Trump is a poopy-head.

Their true colors will show through and if we are fortunate most of them will get shot/killed in the instability that they cause.

[Tess Anderson]

Donna, stop telling your father misinformation then try to trash him to the other dummies. Leave Mr. Trahan alone.

[Old n Grumpy]

Me: "No. I had to pay more this year..but I had more income, so..."I paid my fair share

Father: "More? Well, those new tax cuts cut everyone's taxes!"
Me: "Well, the new tax cuts don't cut taxes much for the middle or working class. It's for rich people mainly.Well, they found out what an ass hole I am so they didn't give them to me

[Skul]

Donna, stop telling your father misinformation then try to trash him to the other dummies. Leave Mr. Trahan alone.

OMG!! 

for that. 

[DUmpsterDiver]

>Oh, did I mention he's uber religious?

dilligaf you democrat pious retard?

I have 80+ extra bucks a payday.  It buys yeast, hops, (/redacted) and it adds +666  bucks to the till.  esad retard.  knock first if you dare.

[FlaGator]

For the record and the edification of the DU OP, the tax cuts took effect this year in February. They showed up for most of us as an increase in our take-home pay. The tax cuts will make themselves evident again in a larger return after filing.

The reason some of the tax cuts weren't made permanent is that the Dems refused to make them permanent. It takes a super majority to make the tax cuts permanent and the libs refused to cooperate.

Thank you for your time and I hope this helps you to better understand your father's position.

[SVPete]

You "inspired" me to update my signature, FlaGator.

[Skul]

Cripes, another great example of conversational recall.   

[FlaGator]

You "inspired" me to update my signature, FlaGator.

More than happy to be of assistance.

[SVPete]

More than happy to be of assistance.

I've used what I added over on CU for a week or two. I got tired of typing the same obvious fact over and over and went lazy.

[I_B_Perky]

That was a very long... lame bouncy.  No conversion, no clapping, didn't take place in a gas station/grocery store and last but not least... no President Trump's jack booted rethuglican gestapo thug jumping out of the bushes with an arrest warrant written on the back of a W-2. 

I did appreciate the effort it took to type all that mess... but other than that? Major suckage.  I give it a bong and half.