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Dutch Try to stick Finger in DNC Dike
« on: January 27, 2018, 03:05:18 PM »
Or should that be dyke?  I get so confused with homophones. 

Machts  nicht,  for some reason no one there seemed to care!

But I digress, so lets cut right to the chase with this gem which to date had only a self serving bump.

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/100210150861

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Dutch alerted US intel about Russian hacking of DNC in summer, 2015.
https://nos.nl/nieuwsuur/artikel/2213767-dutch-intelligence-first-to-alert-u-s-about-russian-hack-of-democratic-party.html

Pay special attention to the last paragraph


The DUmmies have given four Recs on this self basted turkey; one only hopes they are actually reading the link.  IMHO it is far more damning of the DNC and Mueller, et al. than Trump. 


I suggest reading the link in the post, I have no idea who or what a Seth Abramson might be.  Maybe it is actually Triron??

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1. Seth Abramson:

 
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Dammit if the last paragraph of this breaking news doesn't imply that the Trump administration deliberately burned our allies in Dutch intelligence to help save Russian hackers from continued Western surveillance.

Certainly sounds like the Dutch think so.  https://nos.nl/nieuwsuur/artikel/2213767-dutch-intelligence-first-to-alert-u-s-about-russian-hack-of-democratic-party.html

7:17 PM - Jan 26, 2018

Dutch intelligence first to alert U.S. about Russian hack of Democratic Party
Dutch intelligence services were the first to alert their American counterparts about the cyberintrusion of the Democratic National Committee by Cozy Bear, a hacking group believed to be tied to the...

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Apparently everyone knew but no one did anything. 

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Re: Dutch Try to stick Finger in DNC Dike
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2018, 04:01:27 PM »
I admit I don't give a lot of credence to the "Russian hackers" storyline. But if they did, then it's clear any warnings that were given to the DNC were ignored, because they did nothing to secure their servers.

Whoever got in did the world a favor. People need to know just how underhanded, cut-throat, and willing to promote lies the Dem party is now and has been for decades.

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Re: Dutch Try to stick Finger in DNC Dike
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2018, 05:58:15 PM »
I admit I don't give a lot of credence to the "Russian hackers" storyline. But if they did, then it's clear any warnings that were given to the DNC were ignored, because they did nothing to secure their servers.

Whoever got in did the world a favor. People need to know just how underhanded, cut-throat, and willing to promote lies the Dem party is now and has been for decades.

I agree no one knows why the DNC did nothing at this point.  Also, given the fact that the hacking tools were in the wild, there is no guarantee this was not a false flag operation.  Why?  No idea, but the folk milking  Everyone Does Debbie [Wasserman Shultz] may have been looking for a way to bury their tracks. And I am sure there are plenty other options to explain this.
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Re: Dutch Try to stick Finger in DNC Dike
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2018, 06:44:59 PM »
The thing about all those 'Signature' things that our intel establishment shows Russian/Chinese/Nork/Potsylvanian "Fingerprints" is that the Russian/Chinese/Nork/Potsylvanian intel organizations are perfectly well aware of them themselves (As well as the US digital fingerprints, of course!), and so if they choose to do so in a real government-run op, and are perfectly capable of pretending to be a different country's intel service using that info.

Thinking that you are smarter and trickier than everyone else has led to many, many epic intel failures, occasionally on the war-losing catastrophic scale.
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Re: Dutch Try to stick Finger in DNC Dike
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2018, 07:04:09 PM »
Meanwhile the democrat party encourages the influx of unfettered islam males that like to razorback clits, rape young boys and goats
and blow up infidels.  Complicit they are, stupid they will always remain.

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Re: Dutch Try to stick Finger in DNC Dike
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2018, 09:13:54 AM »
I've seen articles about this elsewhere, and DU-folk would :ashamed:  :ashamed:  :ashamed: if they understood it, the chronology especially:

* 201?, Russian hackers assaulted the DNC's servers;

* 2014 Dutch intelligence discovered it (but the DNC sysadmins didn't, Obama's CIA didn't, and Obama's FBI didn't);

* June 16, 2015 Donald Trump announced he was running for President;

* July 2015 Dutch intelligence informed Obama's CIA and Obama's FBI and CIA apparently did nothing to block the Russian hackers.

IOW:

> The Russian hackers - whether successful or not in their assaults - were at it years before Trump's announcement.

> The DNC's sysadmin(s) and Obama's FBI and CIA did not discover the activity.

> The Dutch discovered the Russian hackers' efforts 6-18 months before Trump's announcement.

> The Dutch informed Obama's CIA of the Russians' activities 2-6 weeks after Trump's announcement (had Trump's announcement triggered the Dutch action their response time would have been several hours or a couple of days at most!)

> Obama's FBI and CIA apparently did nothing, not even informing DNC sysadmin(s) who apparently remained clueless for another 6-9 months.

So this story says much of the DNC's sysadmins' incompetence and lack of vigilance. This story says much about the incompetence and lack of vigilance of Obama's FBI and CIA. Maybe if Obama's CIA had spent less time screwing with Israeli leadership and self-defense actions and looking for non-existent Russian-Republican ties they might have spotted something as early as the Dutch. Maybe if Obama's FBI had spent less time spying on and pursuing illusory and almost non-existent right-wing bogeymen and harassing municipal police forces they might have spotted something  as early as the Dutch. And the leadership of Obama's FBI and CIA should be explaining to Congress why they did nothing about the hacking about which the Dutch informed them.

 :banghead: This story says nothing about Trump's campaign, or even about Trump's existence. :banghead: Not that facts matter on DU. :banghead:
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Re: Dutch Try to stick Finger in DNC Dike
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2018, 10:24:11 AM »
I've seen articles about this elsewhere, and DU-folk would :ashamed:  :ashamed:  :ashamed: if they understood it, the chronology especially:

* 201?, Russian hackers assaulted the DNC's servers;

* 2014 Dutch intelligence discovered it (but the DNC sysadmins didn't, Obama's CIA didn't, and Obama's FBI didn't);

* June 16, 2015 Donald Trump announced he was running for President;

* July 2015 Dutch intelligence informed Obama's CIA and Obama's FBI and CIA apparently did nothing to block the Russian hackers.

IOW:

> The Russian hackers - whether successful or not in their assaults - were at it years before Trump's announcement.

> The DNC's sysadmin(s) and Obama's FBI and CIA did not discover the activity.

> The Dutch discovered the Russian hackers' efforts 6-18 months before Trump's announcement.

> The Dutch informed Obama's CIA of the Russians' activities 2-6 weeks after Trump's announcement (had Trump's announcement triggered the Dutch action their response time would have been several hours or a couple of days at most!)

> Obama's FBI and CIA apparently did nothing, not even informing DNC sysadmin(s) who apparently remained clueless for another 6-9 months.

So this story says much of the DNC's sysadmins' incompetence and lack of vigilance. This story says much about the incompetence and lack of vigilance of Obama's FBI and CIA. Maybe if Obama's CIA had spent less time screwing with Israeli leadership and self-defense actions and looking for non-existent Russian-Republican ties they might have spotted something as early as the Dutch. Maybe if Obama's FBI had spent less time spying on and pursuing illusory and almost non-existent right-wing bogeymen and harassing municipal police forces they might have spotted something  as early as the Dutch. And the leadership of Obama's FBI and CIA should be explaining to Congress why they did nothing about the hacking about which the Dutch informed them.

 :banghead: This story says nothing about Trump's campaign, or even about Trump's existence. :banghead: Not that facts matter on DU. :banghead:


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Re: Dutch Try to stick Finger in DNC Dike
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2018, 11:40:10 AM »
Another thing DU-folk are unable and wouldn't want to comprehend, there is probably no organization or business in the US of ANY significance that the Russians, Chinese and God knows who else haven't tried to hack numerous times over the past 10-20 years. That's why DU was not shut down by the Russians, :-)  :tongue: . More seriously, it means that the Rs' server sysadmins have successfully blocked and overcome numerous hack attempts, foreign and domestic (maybe even some from the Obama Administration!).
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