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Two crazy people argue over a TREE
« on: January 12, 2018, 11:33:58 AM »
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A question about the legality of personal space
Hi all,

I had a rather unpleasant experience yesterday with someone who clearly wasn't quite right in the head, and it left me wondering about the legality of defending one's personal space.

Basically it was my day off, and I was happily sitting under one of the trees of our local junior college studying one of my computer books for a test I'm taking. I'm pretty close to the sidewalk, and there are a lot of homeless people and transients in this neighborhood.

So essentially, out of nowhere, the one guy, fairly young, about 5'10" inches tall, thin build, diverts from the sidewalk he's walking on and makes a beeline right towards me. I thought he was going to hit me up for change, a common occurrence in this neighborhood. But instead, he puts his hand on the tree that I'm leaning up against, stands literally inches away from me, and hovers over me and looks down at me.

"What's up?" is all he says. I'm not exggerating when I say he is literally inches away from me. His foot was practically touching mine, and he is actually bending hovering over me while he says this.

I'll admit I wasn't exactly terribly friendly in the manner in which I made my reply, but everything about his demeanor was threatening.

Me: "What's up? What do you want?" I said this somewhat forcefully.

Him: "I'm talking to my tree." He then closes his eyes and acts like he's receiving messages from the tree through his hand. Oh goody, I'm thinking.

First of all let me just explain that this is a huge tree, way to big in circumference to put your arms around. He could have just as easily gone to the other side of the tree to do what he's doing, and while I might think he's more than a little weird, it wouldn't have bothered me enough to speak out. But instead he gets right up in my grill to the point where I feel threatened. He's hovering over me and looking right down at me.

Me: "Yeah, you know. I'm kind of relaxing here. Could you maybe go someplace else and do that?"

Him (now really angry): "You don't own this tree! I have every right to be here!"

Me: "I know I don't own it. But you came right up here and got in my space. You can just as easily go to the other side of the tree and talk to it if that's your thing."

Him (now yelling): "I can go wherever I want. I'm talking to my tree! You don't have any right to tell me to leave!"

Me (starting to get pissed): "WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM?"

Him: "I don't have a problem! I'm talking to my tree!"

Me: "Fine. Talk to your tree then, man." I was obviously annoyed and did not attempt to hide the annoyance in my voice, but I was actually willing to let it go at that point and just wait for him to do his thing and leave. I went back to reading my book, keeping a close watch on him through the corner of my eye. But he wouldn't let it go.

Him: "What is YOUR problem, man?"

Me: "I don't have a problem. I didn't come up to you and totally invade your space, now did I?"

Him: "You don't own this space! I have every right to be here! You can't tell me to leave! I'm TALKING TO MY TREE!"

He's literally screaming at this point, and I'd had enough. I was totally enjoying peacefully studying under the tree until this psycho came up and ruined it. I was one step away from standing up and telling him he better back the **** off if wants to go home with all of his teeth intact. For further information, I am 6 feet four inches tall and a former boxer with a fairly muscular build. He was much smaller than me and I doubt he was as well trained.

Me: "Yeah, what the **** ever dude. You're a weirdo. Leave me alone!"

Him: "DAMN IT!" He then hits "his tree" and storms off. I honestly think if I hadn't been much bigger than him, we would have fought. But he took a look at me and knew he had no chance, so he retreated.

I kept an eye out for awhile, more than a little bit nervous that he might return, perhaps with a weapon, but he didn't. My question is, exactly what right do you have in a situation like this to assert your right to be secure in your space? He's right, I didn't own the tree or the space. But I think there are very few people on this Earth that would be okay with somebody just rolling up on them out of the blue and getting inches away from them and talking to a tree when they could just as easily have done so in a way that did not completely violate their space. If we had come to blows, what type of defense could I have used in court?

There are a lot of homeless people in this community, and while most of them are harmless, there is a certain percentage of them that are mentally unstable and can be dangerous. I don't know for certain if this individual was homeless, he was well dressed and clean cut, and seemed rather well groomed. But I do think he was mentally unstable, and I certainly did not feel safe with him hovering over me like that.

Anyways, any advice would be appreciated.
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Re: Two crazy people argue over a TREE
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2018, 12:01:07 PM »
Sounds to me like the DUmmy ran into a fellow traveler.
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Re: Two crazy people argue over a TREE
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2018, 12:07:16 PM »
Quote from: Zathras on January 12, 2018, 12:01:07 PM
Sounds to me like the DUmmy ran into a fellow traveler.

I was gonna say.  He/she/it should have said "Hey, you must post at DU...we may be friends".
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Re: Two crazy people argue over a TREE
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2018, 12:07:50 PM »
Quote from: Zathras on January 12, 2018, 12:01:07 PM
Sounds to me like the DUmmy ran into a fellow traveler.

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Re: Two crazy people argue over a TREE
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2018, 12:33:27 PM »
DUmmie was being hit on by a gay dude and was too homophobic to realize it.
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Re: Two crazy people argue over a TREE
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2018, 12:43:20 PM »
First, you start with pepper spray.
If that fails move on the the stun gun.
If that fails, you pull out your hi cap 9 with assault bullets and cap his ass.
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Re: Two crazy people argue over a TREE
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2018, 01:39:37 PM »
Actually not a bad  :bouncy:
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Re: Two crazy people argue over a TREE
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2018, 03:38:59 PM »
Quote from: FiddyBeowulf on January 12, 2018, 12:33:27 PM
DUmmie was being hit on by a gay dude and was too homophobic to realize it.

Ahhh. Don't be so sure the DUmmie wasn't sporting his own wood hoping the homeless guy would "communicate with it" using his hands.
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Re: Two crazy people argue over a TREE
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2018, 05:17:59 PM »
As we know from previous case history, personal space is wherever the aggressor declares it to be:


DUmmies in the act of social justice warrioring will insert themselves into another's physical and intellectual personal space to shout them down, verbally berate and/or assault them.

DUmmies in the act of being "offended" by someone open carrying or carrying a gun will declare things on said person's body to be in their personal space, and freak the **** out.

DUmmies declare the inside of businesses their personal space, when the business refuses to make them a cake for fags.


So in this case, the DUmmie has no right, as the aggressor is only following the example set by DUmmies who have trod the ground he is walking on now many times before.

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Re: Two crazy people argue over a TREE
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2018, 05:35:41 PM »
DU-Dude and that sacred homeless guy better be careful, messing around like that with tree spirits. :-)
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Re: Two crazy people argue over a TREE
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2018, 05:56:43 PM »
Quote from: SVPete on January 12, 2018, 05:35:41 PM
DU-Dude and that sacred homeless guy better be careful, messing around like that with tree spirits. :-)

Exactly!

That tree could be TOTALLY offended by the behavior of the 2 DUmmies beneath it's branches...

Could almost be considered sexual harrasment since one of them put his hands on it without permission...
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Re: Two crazy people argue over a TREE
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2018, 06:12:42 PM »
Quote from: diesel driver on January 12, 2018, 05:56:43 PM
Exactly!

That tree could be TOTALLY offended by the behavior of the 2 DUmmies beneath it's branches...

Could almost be considered sexual harrasment since one of them put his hands on it without permission...


TREE RAPE!!!!!
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Re: Two crazy people argue over a TREE
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2018, 08:14:53 PM »
I highly doubt the guy was mentally unstable. I mean, if you were looking to have an intellectual conversation, and your choice was a primitive or a tree, which would you choose?

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Re: Two crazy people argue over a TREE
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2018, 08:55:40 PM »
Quote from: USA4ME on January 12, 2018, 08:14:53 PM
I highly doubt the guy was mentally unstable. I mean, if you were looking to have an intellectual conversation, and your choice was a primitive or a tree, which would you choose?

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You're not offering much of a choice there, USA4ME.

Just for the sake of argument, in the unlikely event that I ever found myself standing under a tree next to a DUmmy while looking for intellectual stimulus, I'd probably yell up into the tree to see if there was a scholarly owl or a particularly eloquent squirrel in it somewhere to match wits with, I suppose.
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Re: Two crazy people argue over a TREE
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2018, 11:06:43 PM »
To Downtown Hound,

First, the guy more than likely FELT like it was his tree. By DUmp standards that does indeed make it his tree.

Second, he was probably on that side of the tree because that was the side that contains the tree's mouth, communication portal, whatever. I can not say with any sort of certainty as to how trees communicate. Maybe one of you DUers could ring up our mutual old pal, Blackie the Ghost Chicken, and ask him.

Finally, did you start out life that completely full of BS or did it just built up over time?
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Re: Two crazy people argue over a TREE
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2018, 06:07:48 AM »
Quote from: VelvetElvis on January 12, 2018, 08:55:40 PM
You're not offering much of a choice there, USA4ME.

Just for the sake of argument, in the unlikely event that I ever found myself standing under a tree next to a DUmmy while looking for intellectual stimulus, I'd probably yell up into the tree to see if there was a scholarly owl or a particularly eloquent squirrel in it somewhere to match wits with, I suppose.
you might find out how many licks to the center of a tootsie pop. Way more intellectual than a primitive.
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Re: Two crazy people argue over a TREE
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2018, 11:07:02 AM »
Quote from: Wineslob on January 12, 2018, 01:39:37 PM
Actually not a bad  :bouncy:

What it needed for a good ending was for a big SUV with a Trump Pence sticker on it full of white guys with MAGA hats to pull up after running over the tents of the homeless people and proceed to get a chainsaw out, cut down the tree while drinking budweiser, high five each other as the tree topples, then get back in the SUV and drive off, laughing and belching thick black diesel smoke.
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Re: Two crazy people argue over a TREE
« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2018, 11:18:08 AM »
Over 300 replies.  That one really resonated with the primitives.
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Re: Two crazy people argue over a TREE
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2018, 11:47:21 AM »
Quote from: DLR Pyro on January 13, 2018, 11:07:02 AM
What it needed for a good ending was for a big SUV with a Trump Pence sticker on it full of white guys with MAGA hats to pull up after running over the tents of the homeless people and proceed to get a chainsaw out, cut down the tree while drinking budweiser, high five each other as the tree topples, then get back in the SUV and drive off, laughing and belching thick black diesel smoke.


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Re: Two crazy people argue over a TREE
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Re: Two crazy people argue over a TREE
« Reply #20 on: January 13, 2018, 03:01:32 PM »
Quote from: BattleHymn on January 12, 2018, 06:12:42 PM

TREE RAPE!!!!!

Poor tree!

It had no legs, and no way to remove itself from this situation.

It just had to stand there and take it...
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Re: Two crazy people argue over a TREE
« Reply #21 on: January 13, 2018, 03:26:42 PM »
Fag fight   :catfight: :catfight: :catfight: :catfight:
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« Reply #23 on: January 13, 2018, 09:47:32 PM »
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A question about the legality of personal space
Hi all,

I had a rather unpleasant experience yesterday with someone who clearly wasn't quite right in the head, and it left me wondering about the legality of defending one's personal space.

Basically it was my day off, and I was happily sitting under one of the trees of our local junior college studying one of my computer books for a test I'm taking. I'm pretty close to the sidewalk, and there are a lot of homeless people and transients in this neighborhood.

<blah, blah, blah>

Ain't your tree dummie.  That tree is obviously the life mate of the gentleman and he was communing with his life mate.  You were interfering in their communing, violating their personal space and you were in the wrong.  You was lucky he didn't kick your ass for putting the moves on his life mate.

So next time... TAKE A HIKE!!!!!

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Re: Two crazy people argue over a TREE
« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2018, 02:56:31 AM »
Quote from: Zathras on January 12, 2018, 12:01:07 PM
Sounds to me like the DUmmy ran into a fellow traveler.
Beat me to it.

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