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Timeline and Questions about the hit job on Franken
« on: November 20, 2017, 12:39:44 AM »
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Timeline and Questions about the hit job on Franken


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The accused
Al Franken. Liberal Senator, Comedian

The accuser
Leanne Tweeden. Conservative talk show host, conservative commentator on many shows, trump supporter, model.

When
December 2006

Where
USO trip to Afghanistan

What
Accuser says accused forcibly kissed her while they were alone practicing for a skit in which he was supposed to kiss her
Accuser shows picture she has had since 2006 where Accused it shown mugging for the camera pretending to touch her.

TIMELINE

2003 Franken uses the kissing skit in a USO show.

12/2006 USO show where the incidences happen.

12/21/2006 photo actually taken per data on original photo at 5:21pm

12/24/2006 when the accusser says photo taken at night on Christmas eve

2006-? Photo shown to Hannity at some point in the past by Tweeden.

2008 Franken runs for the senate against norm coleman and it becomes contested.

7/1/2009 11:00am Norm Coleman finally concedes the race.

https://www.politico.com/story/2009/06/coleman-concedes-race-to-franken-024383

7/1/2009 10:30 pm the original photo is modified in some unknown way per the data within the photo.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/931413204504334336

11/15/2017 10:21pm Roger Stone says it's Al Franken's 'time in the barrel'. Franken next in long list of Democrats to be accused of 'grabby' behavior," read the tweet from Enter the Stone Zone.

thehill.com/…

11/16/2017 7:06am The “story” is released

11/16/2017 7:59am Franken’s Military Escort officer (who has not been debunked yet) responds.

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Leeann Tweeden  ✔ @LeeannTweeden
I’ve decided it’s time to tell my story. #MeToohttp://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leeann-tweeden-on-senator-al-franken/ …
 TT @TheTabbasco
Strange, I was Al Frankin’s Escort officer...I don’t remember any of this except there was a lot of good natured joking in a crowded room...I was with him the entire time on base...
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TT‏ @TheTabbasco Nov 16

Strange, I was Al Frankin’s Escort officer...I don’t remember any of this except there was a lot of good natured joking in a crowded room...I was with him the entire time on base…

TT‏ @TheTabbasco
Replying to @TheTabbasco @LeeannTweeden
He had an escort on every base during waking hours...I even stayed with him in the bathroom...If I saw anything that was inappropriate, it was my job to report it...BTW I am an independent, who did Leeanne vote for???

11/16/2017 Franken issues a formal apology denies the kiss and says the photo inappropriate was supposed to be funny and he is sorry about it. Asks for an Ethics investigation on himself.

11/16/2017 Tweeden says "The ethics investigation — if that's what Mitch McConnell wants to do — I'm not calling for that . . . I'm not demanding any of that," Tweeden said.”

11/16/2017 On his radio show Hannity says to Tweeden "I remember you showing me that photo years ago "


Questions.
1.   The Military Escort says Franken was never alone. How did Franken get Tweeden alone?

2.   The photo shows NO physical contact with Tweeden why does she call it groping?

3.   Who took the picture?

4.   When did Tweeden show that picture to Hannity?

5.   Why didn’t Tweeden or Hannity bring the picture up before?

6.   Why didn’t Tweeden say anything at all about anything during Franken’s very close election in 2008?

7.   What was modified on the picture on the exact day that Norm Coleman conceded the race to Franken?

8.   Why doesn’t Tweeden want an investigation while Franken does?

9.   Why did Tweeden say the skit was written for her when it obviously has been around since 2003 on video?

10.   Franken has done this skit with many women what do they have to say about the rehearsal?

11.   Tweeden says she told people at the USO show right after it happened. Where are they and why haven’t they come forward?

12.   How did Roger Stone learn about this a day before it happened?

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awesomerwb1 (710 posts)
2. Thank you for posting this.

I call BS. Coordinated smear job hit.

The truth will come out. It already is

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Star Member WomanWhoRoars (123 posts)
3. hmmmmm

My gut says this is a smear campaign. Tweeden claims to be traumatized by Al planting a sloppy kiss on her during a USO skit. This is a woman that has posed nude and been in the Playboy mansion; I would think that she's had worse things said and done to her. Don't get me wrong, Al may have overstepped his humor but he is not a predator and this was all about getting him off the committee that questions Trump's nominees AND for LeAnn to sell books. I think there's a reason Al has said he welcomes an investigation. If the twitter rumblings are true....this is a set up.

WWRs calls the victim a slut.

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Star Member George II (24,817 posts)
13. Plus she rubbed her butt against the guitar player minutes after "the kiss" and slapped his butt.

GII says the bitch is a slut.

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Star Member OnDoutside (4,895 posts)
6. IIRC Tweeden says she only knew about the "picture" when she received a copy of it later. Did

Al Franken also receive a copy ? In which case that would be an unaltered version, and it can be compared, if Al still has it.

DUmpmonkiez are sure the russians made up a fake photo that even Franken says is real.

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Hestia (2,780 posts)
20. IIRC, the photo that is shown is on her phone and there is a cd/dvd somewhere with all the pictures

and backstage antics that the photographer gave all the people who help and appeared on the tour. Something tells Drumpf has seen the cd, because he tweeted about pics 2, 3, 4, 5, & 6.

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Star Member The_Casual_Observer (26,221 posts)
7. Franken is the most outspoken Senator

about the Russia investigation. He has been called out by trump many times now.

This is a very deliberate ploy by the GOP and fox to silence him. That woman has inflated a whole story around that stupid picture. It's all bullshit.

TCO says the bitch is lying.

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Star Member brooklynite (40,104 posts)
9. Trashing...

Continually reading about how this was a setup or hoax AFTER Franken has acknowledged it and apologized and after the accusr has accepted the apology is becoming tedious.

 :lmao:

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Star Member WomanWhoRoars (123 posts)
12. well....

He apologized if she was upset at his humor - he never admitted groping her and he did state he remembers the event way differently. There are pix all over twitter of that USO tour show - she had no problem with the country singer grabbing her ass and she even turned around and grabbed his on stage.

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Star Member mopinko (50,342 posts)
15. a couple questions/quibbles.

no al should not step down. yes, this is a smear job.

but- a couple things about that metadata.
i dont know about this camera, and am not a big photog, but i think the time/date stamp is something that is set by the operator, so it could have been set incorrectly. i dont think it is like a phone time stamp.
someone more informed about the model, or about army practices could give a more definitive answer.

and the modification date could just be the photo being resaved. may be just moving it to another device, which would resave it and mark it modified even if it is not altered. the date is suspicious, tho.

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Star Member pandr32 (2,865 posts)
26. She is a liar

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43. Tweeden Playboy

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If you Google playboy/tweeden
You will see a picture of her and this is what it says




PLAYBOYNSFW
SHOP
Magazine
Leeann Tweeden
DETAILS

EYE COLORBrown Eyes
HAIR COLORBrunettes
BIRTHDATE06/06/73
HOMETOWNManassas, VA, USA
SEE HER NUDE ON PLAYBOY PLUS

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maxrandb (7,152 posts)
21. Be careful

Some crazy DUers will accuse you of supporting rape if you question Leeann

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Jakes Progress (9,507 posts)
61. We are still waiting for the apologies

from the duped Democrats that demanded Franken's resignation.

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Hyper_Eye (607 posts)
65. There is a hell of a double standard going on around here right now and it's disgusting.

We villainize the right when they deny wrong-doing and then attempt to discredit their accusers. We exclaim that it takes courage for women to come out and publicly recount their sexual abuse. But when the accused is a beloved senator on our side, who has admitted wrongdoing and apologized to his accuser, we are digging up everything we can to tear down his accuser. It is absolutely 100% hypocritical and it makes my skin crawl. I don't care if she is a conservative. I don't care if she fraternizes with clowns on the extreme right. I don't care what her views are. Sexual assault is sexual assault. Is it possible she is lying and this is a political hit job? Yes it is. Those are things that will come out during an investigation. In the meantime I'm going to give her the same benefit of the doubt that I'm giving Roy Moore's accusers. I see the same thing in the picture that you see which is that his hands are more hovering than they are touching. I see him smiling as if it is a joke. But I don't find it funny and his hands are in a position that I would not be okay with if it were my private parts or if she were my wife. He admits the picture was wrong and a mistake. I take him at his word. I know there are "witness statements" on twitter. I will believe them when they recount the incident under oath. Until then they are just random people on the internet.

I was a fan of Al when he was on Air America. I was elated that he ran and won a seat in the senate. I think he is doing important work. I don't want to believe these accusations. I also strongly supported John Edwards and voted for him in 2004 and 2008. I felt he was talking about something the other candidates were missing and I think that the issues he campaigned on culminated in the 2016 election. When his troubles began I didn't want to believe them. Ultimately I was incredibly disappointed to find out that they were true. I also felt that Anthony Wiener was one of the true progressives calling out the right in congress. I was a big fan. I didn't want to believe the allegations against him. I was disappointed again. These things happen. Is it possible that Senator Franken is taking the best approach he can with the intention of seeing his innocence proved later? Sure. I'm not calling for his head. I'm not calling for his accuser's head either. It wouldn't be right.

As far as I'm concerned this site is engaged in a witch hunt right now. It needs to stop.

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80. It's obvious to me, as to many of you, that this is some convaluded RW crap. Let's move on.

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Re: Timeline and Questions about the hit job on Franken
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2017, 09:20:49 AM »
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Timeline and Questions about the hit job on Franken

cool timeline, bro, but another accuser has come forward to report an incident that happened after franken was seated in the Senate...

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A woman says Sen. Al Franken inappropriately touched her in 2010, telling CNN that he grabbed her buttocks while taking a photo at the Minnesota State Fair.

It is the first allegation of improper touching by Franken, who is a Democrat, while he was in office. It comes just days after Leeann Tweeden, a local radio news anchor in California, said that Franken forcibly kissed and groped her in 2006, when Franken was a comedian.
Franken has since issued an apology to Tweeden and faces a potential investigation by the Senate Ethics Committee.
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Lindsay Menz, a 33-year-old woman who now lives in Frisco, Texas, reached out to CNN on Thursday hours after Tweeden made her story public. Menz said she wanted to share an "uncomfortable" interaction that left her feeling "gross."
According to Menz, she attended the Minnesota State Fair with her husband and father in the summer of 2010, almost two years after Franken was elected to the Senate. Her father's small business was sponsoring a local radio booth, and she spent the day meeting various elected officials, political candidates and celebrities and taking photos with them as they stopped by the booth.
When Franken walked in, Menz and her husband, who also spoke with CNN, said they recognized him right away. Menz said she had a brief and cordial exchange with the senator.
Then, as her husband held up her phone and got ready to snap a photo of the two of them, Franken "pulled me in really close, like awkward close, and as my husband took the picture, he put his hand full-fledged on my rear," Menz said. "It was wrapped tightly around my butt cheek."
"It wasn't around my waist. It wasn't around my hip or side. It was definitely on my butt," she said, recalling that the brazen act lasted three or four seconds. "I was like, oh my God, what's happening."
"He reached around her and kind of pulled her into him," said her husband Jeremy Menz, who didn't see what happened behind his wife. "He pulled her in and pushed his head against her head. It was over pretty quick."
Lindsay Menz told CNN that she walked away as soon as the photo was taken, without saying anything to the then-first term senator. When she reconnected with her husband moments later, she told him: "He totally grabbed my butt." Jeremy Menz described that conversation the same way to CNN.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/20/politics/al-franken-inappropriate-touch-2010/index.html

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Re: Timeline and Questions about the hit job on Franken
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2017, 09:42:45 AM »
cool timeline, bro, but another accuser has come forward to report an incident that happened after franken was seated in the Senate...
 http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/20/politics/al-franken-inappropriate-touch-2010/index.html

 :lmao:

Has anyone posted this on DU yet?  They all keep harping that they're waiting for someone else to come forward.  And this chick has it on her facebook page from the next day calling him a 'Creeper!'

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Re: Timeline and Questions about the hit job on Franken
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2017, 09:49:25 AM »
:lmao:

Has anyone posted this on DU yet?  They all keep harping that they're waiting for someone else to come forward.  And this chick has it on her facebook page from the next day calling him a 'Creeper!'

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https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029866154

Predictable responses too.

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Re: Timeline and Questions about the hit job on Franken
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2017, 12:15:11 PM »
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029866154

Predictable responses too.

I've been following that one.  It is absolutely hilarious to watch themselves bend and twist to make things fit their narrative.  There are a couple who are refusing to go read the article so they don't have to see the part where he grabbed her butt, or that she called him a 'creeper' on facebook.  They want the others to tell them what the article says! 

 :rotf:

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