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Impeachment articles to be filed before Thanksgiving
« on: November 01, 2017, 10:29:25 PM »
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Impeachment articles to be filed before Thanksgiving


... Rep. Luis Gutierrez, D-Illinois, told the Chicago Tribune the group is currently meeting with constitutional scholars to solidify the case against the Republican president. He did not specify what the charges against Trump would be.

"I assure you we will not leave you lacking for reason," Gutierrez said ...

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/11/impeachment_articles_to_be_fil.html

The [D]s already tried this once... but they ran away before the house to take it to the floor. You seriously think they will do it again?

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1. Already been done at least once. I know he is promising

a more coordinated effort this time, but I doubt it’ll go anywhere.

Like Pelosi and Schumer, I’ll wait for the Mueller report. Let’s get it right.

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3. That is exactly what needs to happen, wait for te full Mueller report. Absolutely nothing will

result from this under republican control of House, but when the Mueller report is complete, that is when it becomes real if it is going to happen, because it will provide the evidence for impeachment.

The republican House investigation of the Russian links was a sham, the Mueller investigation is independent

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6. Even though I of course believe there is more than enough reason to impeach this very

moment I think it should not be attempted at this time. This needs to play out. Mueller and his million dollar mean dream team ain't no slouches...they got this. Dem's should slow this roll.

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13. Only because we need Pence solidly implicated too.

If nothing else, we need proof he chose NOT to know about certain things. If there's a pattern that can prove our VP knew hanky-panky of a more than sexual kind was happening and did nothing to stop it, that should be our first priority to identify.

If they'd just impeached Nixon, we'd have had Agnew. We need at the very least proof our modern-day Agnew is deliberately choosing to "see no evil" and to use the leverage from all of this to get someone who doesn't watch the Handmaid's Tale on Hulu for inspiration installed as VP first.

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11. I now that I'm swimming against the current but its too soon.

This bullet can be fired only once. There is no reason to file an impeachment resolution in the House so long as it would have no chance.

I'm as eager as anyone to see Trump impeached but - please - give Mueller more time to flip more of the Trump minions. As fast as things are moving, the question for me is whether there is an impeachment vote before or after the 2018 election. If the Repugnants think Trump is going to be a drag on their reelection prospects, they will throw him over. Failing that, a Democratic controlled House can proceed after the 2018 election.

The correct order is Ready, Aim, Fire. We're still in the Ready phase.

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14. Hold on Slick

There ain’t no double jeopardy on filing impeachment that I ever heard of. Impeach early, often and for all time, practice makes perfect.

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16. Yes, thank you. I know that double jeopardy only applies to criminal cases.

I'm not talking about double jeopardy or any other legal restraint.

As a political matter, the public will not tolerate multiple attempts at impeachment. Impeachment is a grave matter that must be addressed gravely. If we mean it, we need to act like we mean it.

No prosecutor would file a criminal case until s/he knew the case could be proven. An impeachment is not a criminal case but it would be equally foolish to file articles of impeachment until the ducks are not all marching in a single column.

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Re: Impeachment articles to be filed before Thanksgiving
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2017, 10:57:09 PM »
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Re: Impeachment articles to be filed before Thanksgiving
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2017, 07:04:29 AM »
I can picture it now. :lmao: Melania holds up a picture of Luis Gutierrez, "Barron, this is what stupid looks like. Don't be stupid." :lmao:

Does Speaker Ryan have the cajones to call the Ds' bluff again?
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Re: Impeachment articles to be filed before Thanksgiving
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2017, 07:44:15 AM »
This is what is called building a world of delusion and then moving in to live in it.

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Re: Impeachment articles to be filed before Thanksgiving
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2017, 08:06:11 AM »
Luis Gutierrez is an outspoken ass hole of the smelliest kind. He is as annoying as anthony weiner was when he had a job. These do nothing dems are just grandstanding to try to impress their base that they are doing something, while ignoring all the important issues that concern the average citizen.

They will never learn :thatsright:
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Re: Impeachment articles to be filed before Thanksgiving
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2017, 09:39:28 AM »
Luis Gutierrez is an outspoken ass hole of the smelliest kind. He is as annoying as anthony weiner was when he had a job. These do nothing dems are just grandstanding to try to impress their base that they are doing something, while ignoring all the important issues that concern the average citizen.

They will never learn :thatsright:

But their base keeps sending them back.  They are the stupid ones.
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Re: Impeachment articles to be filed before Thanksgiving
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2017, 02:45:03 PM »
Demonrat wet dream, nothing more than mental masterbation...

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Re: Impeachment articles to be filed before Thanksgiving
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2017, 03:41:12 PM »
And just who are they going to impeach? The f**king Turkey? :thatsright:

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Re: Impeachment articles to be filed before Thanksgiving
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Re: Impeachment articles to be filed before Thanksgiving
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2017, 06:29:10 PM »
Luis Gutierrez  :rotf:

http://freebeacon.com/politics/luis-gutierrez-paid-wife-over-300k/
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/07/rep_luis_gutierrez_has_paid_his_wife_over_400_in_campaign_funds.html

from the most gerrymandered district of all:



he can make Blumenthal over in the Senate seem moral.

Someone should collect maps of some of the snakier gerrymandered D districts and plop a map into every thread where DU-folk invoke the Demonic G-Word.
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Re: Impeachment articles to be filed before Thanksgiving
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2017, 08:21:30 AM »
In his quest to undo obama's legacy, President Trump has rescinded the pardon for the turkey obama granted last year. The turkey will be served for Thanksgiving dinner at the White House. :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
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Re: Impeachment articles to be filed before Thanksgiving
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2017, 03:53:27 PM »
But wouldn't Trump have to do something illegal first, you know like lie to Congress?  :-)
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Re: Impeachment articles to be filed before Thanksgiving
« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2017, 07:51:00 PM »
But wouldn't Trump have to do something illegal first, you know like lie to Congress?  :-)

According to the DUmmies, being elected over HELLary is a crime... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Impeachment articles to be filed before Thanksgiving
« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2017, 09:14:42 AM »
We only have 17 more impeachment days till Thanksgiving. that is 13 business days as well. :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :tongue: :tongue: :tongue: :tongue:
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Re: Impeachment articles to be filed before Thanksgiving
« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2017, 09:20:15 AM »
In his quest to undo obama's legacy, President Trump has rescinded the pardon for the turkey obama granted last year. The turkey will be served for Thanksgiving dinner at the White House. :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Ok, now THAT would be a pretty good troll. The propaganda outlets would implode. hahaha!
Dang I wish he'd actually do that... and on twitter too. Geez they wouldn't know WHICH way to run with that one.

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Re: Impeachment articles to be filed before Thanksgiving
« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2017, 09:19:58 PM »
We only have 17 more impeachment days till Thanksgiving. that is 13 business days as well. :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :tongue: :tongue: :tongue: :tongue:

Is that more or less than 24 business hours?

I lost my conversion chart...
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Re: Impeachment articles to be filed before Thanksgiving
« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2017, 11:34:43 PM »
Is that more or less than 24 business hours?

I lost my conversion chart...

My chart says "yes".
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Re: Impeachment articles to be filed before Thanksgiving
« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2017, 06:27:04 AM »
Is that more or less than 24 business hours?

I lost my conversion chart...

More than 24 business hours but less than Omaha Steve's time left on earth because he is still dying you know.  :whatever:
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Re: Impeachment articles to be filed before Thanksgiving
« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2017, 08:20:06 AM »
More than 24 business hours but less than Omaha Steve's time left on earth because he is still dying you know.  :whatever:

He is?  Haven't noticed the weeping Neckbeard post an update in a while.
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Re: Impeachment articles to be filed before Thanksgiving
« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2017, 08:59:46 AM »
Just a week to go to Thanksgiving (ThanksGreening?)
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Re: Impeachment articles to be filed before Thanksgiving
« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2017, 09:27:11 AM »
According to the Bilderburg group who were told by the Iluminati who decoded the Da Vinci codes the Trilateral commission is ready with a list of charges.

They will be filed in 24 hours.

Trump is toast!! :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

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Re: Impeachment articles to be filed before Thanksgiving
« Reply #21 on: November 18, 2017, 03:24:51 PM »
My chart says "yes".

Just found mine, I must have a different version.

Mine says:. "Bank on it!"
Murphy's 3rd Law:  "You can't make anything 'idiot DUmmie proof'.  The world will just create a better idiot DUmmie."

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Re: Impeachment articles to be filed before Thanksgiving
« Reply #22 on: November 18, 2017, 09:21:10 PM »
Just found mine, I must have a different version.

Mine says:. "Bank on it!"

                      :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Indeed   :lmao:  :lmao:   :lmao:
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Re: Impeachment articles to be filed before Thanksgiving
« Reply #23 on: November 19, 2017, 02:03:09 PM »
Just found mine, I must have a different version.

Mine says:. "Bank on it!"

You've got a newer version . . . :whistling:
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Re: Impeachment articles to be filed before Thanksgiving
« Reply #24 on: November 19, 2017, 05:55:05 PM »
In his quest to undo obama's legacy, President Trump has rescinded the pardon for the turkey obama granted last year. The turkey will be served for Thanksgiving dinner at the White House. :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

FINALLY!  A  real impeachable offense!!!
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