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Re: Are we headed for a second civil war?
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2017, 10:14:02 PM »
Nope.  Next question.
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Re: Are we headed for a second civil war?
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2017, 10:19:58 PM »
I expect to see trade wars, foreign policy disasters, a few race riots, a decrease in personal liberty, higher taxes, higher inflation and probably, economic collapse. The silver lining is, secession will probably become more feasible.

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Re: Are we headed for a second civil war?
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2017, 10:43:11 PM »
Just to give you a short serious answer, it won't happen because there isn't a regional division, or enough of one, for two polarized sides to draw on a territorial base and form a proto-state on reasonably safe territory, the two sides and the middle are completely intermingled without an overwhelming regional issue (And an equally-powerful motive to oppose it outside the region) to define a conflict around which such a war could crystallize.

Also, so many people on each side are big-talking keyboard commandos who in fact are completely dependent on the central government remaining intact, with its banking, transportation, and distribution network, that despite the absurdly threatening and self-proclaimed bad-assery there aren't very many people committed to either side who are willing to throw away everything they have and put their lives on the line.
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Re: Are we headed for a second civil war?
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2017, 10:51:01 PM »
Just to give you a short serious answer, it won't happen because there isn't a regional division, or enough of one, for two polarized sides to draw on a territorial base and form a proto-state on reasonably safe territory, the two sides and the middle are completely intermingled without an overwhelming regional issue (And an equally-powerful motive to oppose it outside the region) to define a conflict around which such a war could crystallize.

Also, so many people on each side are big-talking keyboard commandos who in fact are completely dependent on the central government remaining intact, with its banking, transportation, and distribution network, that despite the absurdly threatening and self-proclaimed bad-assery there aren't very many people committed to either side who are willing to throw away everything they have and put their lives on the line.

I wouldn't bother with serious answers with this guy DAT. He's going to give you some one liner he thinks is deep somehow. I wonder what his DU name is?

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Re: Are we headed for a second civil war?
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2017, 11:00:23 PM »

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Re: Are we headed for a second civil war?
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2017, 11:03:02 PM »
The right of revolution is an inherent one. When people are oppressed by their government, it is a natural right they enjoy to relieve themselves of oppression, if they are strong enough, whether by withdrawal from it, or by overthrowing it and substituting a government more acceptable.

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Re: Are we headed for a second civil war?
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2017, 11:24:25 PM »
I wouldn't bother with serious answers with this guy DAT. He's going to give you some one liner he thinks is deep somehow. I wonder what his DU name is?

I agree, already came to that conclusion, really.  Just tired of the inflammatory panicky BS and decided to make an exception to policy and give him one real response.  Pearls before swine, though, as demonstrated.
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Re: Are we headed for a second civil war?
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2017, 11:28:03 PM »
I agree, already came to that conclusion, really.  Just tired of the inflammatory panicky BS and decided to make an exception to policy and give him one real response.  Pearls before swine, though, as demonstrated.

I'm still trying to figure out if he's a troll or just good ol' fashioned dumb. I was leaning towards dumb but I'm starting to swing the other way.

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Re: Are we headed for a second civil war?
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2017, 11:45:56 PM »
Torn on that one myself.  A couple of other possibilities come to mind, none of them any more positive.
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Re: Are we headed for a second civil war?
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2017, 11:53:36 PM »
The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it.

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Re: Are we headed for a second civil war?
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2017, 12:00:02 AM »
In the country of the normally-sighted, the guy with myopia doesn't make all that great an impression.
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Re: Are we headed for a second civil war?
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2017, 12:02:40 AM »
Confucius say… never take a sleeping pill and a laxative on the same night.

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Re: Are we headed for a second civil war?
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2017, 12:41:37 AM »
You guys have to cut the Farmer some slack.  He is a Ron Paul fan after all.

Those who beat their swords into plowshares end up plowing for those that didn't.

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Re: Are we headed for a second civil war?
« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2017, 03:31:10 AM »
When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.

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Re: Are we headed for a second civil war?
« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2017, 05:33:25 AM »
When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.

My plagiarism-checker site says your quote is 13-words short of an adequate assessment... so I added 13 random words.  The result??  ...Significant plagiarism was detected.

But, to be fair, your 'right to revolution' comment contained no detectable plagiarism... only a comma misuse and a passive voice misuse.

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Re: Are we headed for a second civil war?
« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2017, 06:16:41 AM »
You guys have to cut the Farmer some slack.  He is a Ron Paul fan after all.

Those who beat their swords into plowshares end up plowing for those that didn't.

Isn't Ron Paul busy counting his money? Sorta fell off the radar screen...
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Re: Are we headed for a second civil war?
« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2017, 06:56:45 AM »
Isn't Ron Paul busy counting his money? Sorta fell off the radar screen...

I have heard him . . . Hawking a food dehydrator on radio programs. :whistling:
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Re: Are we headed for a second civil war?
« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2017, 07:35:20 AM »
You guys have to cut the Farmer some slack.  He is a Ron Paul fan after all.

Those who beat their swords into plowshares end up plowing for those that didn't.

We are.   ;)

The 'No slack' version is a LOT uglier.

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Re: Are we headed for a second civil war?
« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2017, 07:46:20 AM »
You know the US is doomed when Americans would rather attack those who defend freedom instead of criticizing the government that is enslaving them.

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Re: Are we headed for a second civil war?
« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2017, 09:14:37 AM »
You know the US is doomed when Americans would rather attack those who defend freedom instead of criticizing the government that is enslaving them.

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Re: Are we headed for a second civil war?
« Reply #22 on: August 22, 2017, 09:21:35 AM »
We the people are the rightful master of both congress and the courts – not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.

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Re: Are we headed for a second civil war?
« Reply #23 on: August 22, 2017, 11:43:11 AM »
We the people are the rightful master of both congress and the courts – not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.

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Re: Are we headed for a second civil war?
« Reply #24 on: August 22, 2017, 11:45:33 AM »
You can't beat pecan pie made with fresh pecans.

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