Identity politics rips apart liberals (BLM vs. LGBT, et al)

[Ralph Wiggum]

www.democraticunderground.com/10029252235

LittleBlue
BLM shuts down gay pride parade in Seattle




No idea what the gay community of my city did to deserve this. :/

edit- seems it's happening nationwide

Long divisive thread...

[thundley4]

BLM couldn't tolerate letting cops be in the parades, even though most liberal cities forced the cops to participate.

[Delmar]

Response to LittleBlue (Reply #2)Sun Jun 25, 2017, 03:51 PM
OhNo-Really (72 posts)
5. A 30 minute interruption

I have to say that I hope it helps. The unpunished killing of mostly black people terrifying. I just hope and pray the movement doesn't get violent.

A 30 minute delay can seem like a lifetime when you're stuck outdoors without sunscreen with the sun beating down on your buttcheeks in a pair of assless chaps.

[Skul]

Barack Lies Matter is pissed because there is no black in a rainbow. 

[SVPete]

Just as Ds, Libs, & Progs seem not to have anticipated their special interest groups coming into unresolvable conflict (e.g. Enviros vs. the UMW), they seem not to have realized that their Prog with-us-or-against-us-ultra-purity thingy would similarly bring different interest groups into conflict. Nor anticipated that Progs' Victimier-Than-Thou mindset would turn inward.

Here, we have the latter two: police have participated for years in many/most "Gay Pride" parades, but now that crosses BLM, who hate police; BLM is claiming the top spot in the Prog Hierarchy of Victimhood, so the gays need to bow to BLM's wishes and apologize abjectly for not having booted the police out of "Pride" events without being told.

2 or 3 years ago, the GLBTUVWXYZ people were at the apex of the Victimhood Pyramid, but the Pulse nightclub shooting a year ago (the character of which Libs & Progs still deny) and now this stuff (one of the first such disruptions I heard of was in Toronto, Canada, so it's not just nationwide) have taken the gays well down from that apex.

[Old n Grumpy]

And the result will be that both sides will demand more attention / rights from all of us non participants.

[SVPete]

And the result will be that both sides will demand more attention / rights from all of us non participants.

Think of it as just that many more fools we can flip off and at whom we can laugh.

[DLR Pyro]

Barack Lies Matter is pissed because there is no black in a rainbow.

This is the closest I could find to a black rainbow, although I feel it might offend the people who get offended anytime an Indian is used as a mascot, but, F' em

[DumbAss Tanker]

Excellent work, DemonRats.  Please keep it up!

 

[FlaGator]

Barack Lies Matter is pissed because there is no black in a rainbow.

Black is the absence of rainbow.

[Old n Grumpy]

If black lives mattered maybe they would start acting civilized and stop killing each other.

[SVPete]

If black lives mattered maybe they would start acting civilized and stop killing each other.

The sad facts are that this would reduce murders of black people by a crazy percentage - 80%? 90%? -  and have an very large impact on the murder rate in the US. The third sad fact is that unless this, "Let's stop killing ourselves!" message comes from a black person with the stature of an MLK, it has near-zero chance of being heard.

[Happy Fun Ball]

Meanwhile the LGBRSTLNEQQXV@*ers banned Jewish flags from their parade.

[SVPete]

Meanwhile the LGBRSTLNEQQXV@*ers banned Jewish flags from their parade.

JOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSssssssss are an un-PC ethnic group in ProgLand (except, sometimes, the self-haters).

[Karin]

Yes, their strategy of building a coalition of a bunch of pigeon-holed little groups has not been wise.  And look how nasty it's made all of them!  They can't stand each other. 

No idea what the gay community of my city did to deserve this. :/

Excellent.

Response to OhNo-Really (Reply #3)
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 03:49 PM
LittleBlue (10,112 posts)
4. No idea

Gay people aren't killing anyone. They're more often the victims. Why shut down their parades?

Response to LittleBlue (Reply #4)
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 10:59 PM
liberalhistorian (20,394 posts)
104. I don't understand it, either,

and it's very frustrating

Response to X_Digger (Reply #16)
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 06:59 PM
Dr. Strange (24,062 posts)
78. Was the parade inclusive?

In Chicago, they were expelling Jewish lesbians from the Dyke March: http://chicago.gopride.com/news/article.cfm/articleid/86821969 .

Maybe there are racial problems in these marches?

Response to LittleBlue (Original post)
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 06:55 PM
 TeamPooka (11,038 posts)
77. Progressives fighting against each is the right wing wet dream. Conservatives are smiling today.

  and having medical issues lasting more than four hours!  150 days or more! 

[Ptarmigan]

Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.
-Napoleon Bonaparte

[DUmpDiver]

Victims vs. victims - a DUmmie conundrum.

[SVPete]

Response to LittleBlue (Original post)
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 06:55 PM
 TeamPooka (11,038 posts)
77. Progressives fighting against each is the right wing wet dream. Conservatives are smiling today.

More than that, we're ing! Libs' & Progs' internecine strife is the natural and predictable result of their own identity and victim politics, and they - you,DU-Person -failed to foresee it and therefore did nothing to forestall it. time!

[FlaGator]

This is what happens when those who believe they are victims are put in to competition with others of the victim class.

Once upon a time there use to be only victims which consisted of anyone who wasn't a white male. Then the neo-communists and modern socialists came along who stirred the pot by pointing out to certain sub classes of victims that there were treated worse by white men than the other sub classes were. After a while all the individual victim sub classes started trying to prove to the other sub classes that they were the real victims... and all this led to the BLM victims interrupting the LGBTXYZ victims which will eventually lead to the preferred victim situation where there is all out war and it will be every victim for him or her or it self and everyone will live completely pissed off ever after except for white males who will still be blamed for everything but will still be running the show when the dust settles.

[SVPete]

This is what happens when those who believe they are victims are put in to competition with others of the victim class.

Once upon a time there use to be only victims which consisted of anyone who wasn't a white male. Then the neo-communists and modern socialists came along who stirred the pot by pointing out to certain sub classes of victims that there were treated worse by white men than the other sub classes were. After a while all the individual victim sub classes started trying to prove to the other sub classes that they were the real victims... and all this led to the BLM victims interrupting the LGBTXYZ victims which will eventually lead to the preferred victim situation where there is all out war and it will be every victim for him or her or it self and everyone will live completely pissed off ever after except for white males who will still be blamed for everything but will still be running the show when the dust settles.

Inevitably, the various victim classes come into competition for government $$ and come into cross-purposes. That the Ds, Libs, and Progs don't anticipate and work to preclude this shows how clueless they are about human nature.

(Grammar corrections)

[FlaGator]

Inevitably, the various victim classes coming into competition for government $$ and come into cross-purposes. That the Ds, Libs, and Progs didn't anticipate and work to preclude this shows how clueless they are about human nature.

Liberals are incapable of thinking that far in advance.

Liberals don't make good chess players.

[Wineslob]

DUmmies, The LGBTQW..whevahtha**** group has played their card. But even with a "dead" hand they keep trying to bluff. So, keep it up, the rest of us will continue to not give a shit.

[docstew]

The sad facts are that this would reduce murders of black people by a crazy percentage - 80%? 90%? -  and have an very large impact on the murder rate in the US. The third sad fact is that unless this, "Let's stop killing ourselves!" message comes from a black person with the stature of an MLK, it has near-zero chance of being heard.

Does Stevie Wonder have that kind of clout?

http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2017/06/22/stevie-wonder-cant-say-black-lives-matter-when-blacks-killing-blacks/

[SVPete]

Does Stevie Wonder have that kind of clout?

http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2017/06/22/stevie-wonder-cant-say-black-lives-matter-when-blacks-killing-blacks/

doc, Stevie Wonder said that a week ago, evidently. This was the first I'd heard of it, and it was covered by Breitbart. So, sadly, I doubt his message will be heard. Partly, it's lack of coverage. Partly (and sadly) the music biz, I think, has moved on from him. Partly - a very large part - turning the current bloody mess around would be a huge sub-cultural shift, and it's going to take a crusade, not just an occasional public statement by one figure, however visible/charismatic. One point on which I was incorrect, I think on reflection, is that it's going to take multiple MLK-like figures. One alone could be written off and ignored - even character-assassinated.

I seriously hope all that happens, because the current literal bloody mess hurts everyone.