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Re: DUmmies Discuss Trump Craziness
« Reply #50 on: March 01, 2016, 02:34:40 PM »
I seem to remember, during the 2008 and 2012 campaigns, when those of us who were disgusted with the milquetoast candidates the GOPe told us we were going to have to choose from, we were told "yeah, but the alternative is worse!"  In response to Trump, the same GOPe is saying they won't support him.  Quite a different tune from the past 8 years.

Oh, they're constantly changing their tune, no doubt. Just a couple of months ago, they were saying "Mr. Trump, will you please sign this petition saying that all candidates will agree to support the Republican nominee and not go third party?" to now saying "We're not supporting Trump if he's the nominee."

So they want Trump to support the R nominee, but they aren't willing to support him if he's the nominee. Double standard.

See, it's crap like that that leaves me hoping the R leadership gets run over by a steamroller.

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Re: DUmmies Discuss Trump Craziness
« Reply #51 on: March 01, 2016, 02:37:01 PM »

     Here's what we get with Trump:

http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/01/politics/donald-trump-marco-rubio-beautiful-hands/index.html


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Washington (CNN)Republican front-runner Donald Trump on Tuesday brushed aside demeaning comments from Marco Rubio about the size of his hands, saying others disagree with the Florida senator.

"He said I have small hands -- I'm actually 6'3", not 6'2" -- but I've always heard people say, 'Donald, you have the most beautiful hands,' " Trump said at a rally in Columbus, Ohio, on Super Tuesday.



     Let's be as honest as we claim we are: how is that any better than 0loser? 
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Trump Craziness
« Reply #52 on: March 01, 2016, 03:20:35 PM »
In all fairness, and for the sake of disclosure, Trump is not my candidate - Ted Cruz is. 

     Here's what we get with Trump:

     Let's be as honest as we claim we are: how is that any better than 0loser?

I'm sorry, I'm not seeing your point with the juxtaposition of what you've quoted.  What are you trying to say?
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Trump Craziness
« Reply #53 on: March 01, 2016, 03:26:34 PM »
In all fairness, and for the sake of disclosure, Trump is not my candidate - Ted Cruz is. 

I'm sorry, I'm not seeing your point with the juxtaposition of what you've quoted.  What are you trying to say?


     That Trump is a vain, insecure, childish *****.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Trump Craziness
« Reply #54 on: March 01, 2016, 03:28:37 PM »

     That Trump is a vain, insecure, childish *****.

I'd have to ask, to one degree or another, which of the candidates aren't?
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Trump Craziness
« Reply #55 on: March 01, 2016, 03:34:55 PM »
I'd have to ask, to one degree or another, which of the candidates aren't?


     Really? I am struggling to recall a candidate of either party on a debate stage in any period of American political history saying that someone is ugly. Or stupid.

     
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Trump Craziness
« Reply #56 on: March 01, 2016, 05:01:00 PM »
Well I'm gald to se someone else say it.  I'd rather see the Hildabeast get elected than vote for Trump.

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Re: DUmmies Discuss Trump Craziness
« Reply #57 on: March 01, 2016, 05:20:35 PM »
Well I'm gald to se someone else say it.  I'd rather see the Hildabeast get elected than vote for Trump.

Not me. I'd crawl over broken glass to vote for Trump (or Cruz), rather than see hitlary get in there.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Trump Craziness
« Reply #58 on: March 01, 2016, 05:37:26 PM »
Not me. I'd crawl over broken glass to vote for Trump (or Cruz), rather than see hitlary get in there.

Same here.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Trump Craziness
« Reply #59 on: March 01, 2016, 05:51:36 PM »
I understand and respect everyones views here and am no Trump fan,am hoping somehow he will not be our nominee.
He has tapped into a few very correct stances on issues such as immigration and built a following from that as well as the thumbing his nose at the leftist political correct,shut up tactic.

I don`t trust him but if he was elected President I am much more willing to roll the dice on his SCOTUS picks then Clintons.
Hopefully a distrustful Senate GOP would still be willing to stop any that were horrible.

As far as the rest,keep in mind that impeachment is virtually impossible unless the sitting Presidents own party is willing to go along and in Trumps case if he turned into a complete lib I suspect they would so it is not a given he can just go any which way on things with no possible recourse.

It may junk any chance in 2020 but is that any less likely then a Shillary reelection bid succeeding?

Maybe she would just be a place keeper trying to cement the Clinton name in history but between her and Bubba she was the ideologue.

If I have to,I will go with the possible ****ing that might kiss me rather then the certain ****ing who would spit in my face with glee just as soon as to look at me.

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Re: DUmmies Discuss Trump Craziness
« Reply #60 on: March 01, 2016, 06:16:00 PM »
Well I'm gald to se someone else say it.  I'd rather see the Hildabeast get elected than vote for Trump.

Here's the problem:

The party leaders wanted to give us Jeb. When he couldn't make it, they'd have gladly settled for Rubio or Kasich or even Christie. They don't like Carson (conservative) and they don't like Cruz (conservative). Bottom line: They don't like real conservatives. They like David Brooks type conservatives, which is to say, they don't like everyday average, fly-over country type conservatives (you know; normal people), but rather they like moderate-liberal to liberal candidates who call themselves conservatives.

All the party leaders had to do was to get behind Cruz, go strong conservative on ISIS, border security, trade, getting rid of Obamacare, job creation via lowering taxes and creating incentives for people to go into business, etc... Instead, they try and feed us the same promises we know are empty and they have no intention of doing once they get into office. This time, no dice.

Hillary is an extension of Dear Leader, so we're looking at the status quo and let's give away things to our constituents to try to appease and keep them from coming to our houses with torches and pitchforks. Besides, we can't afford her. Debt will be $40 trillion before she's done.

And who knows, maybe Trump will be just as bad or worse. But once you reach a certain level, what's the difference between getting tossed out of a plane without a parachute from 10,000 feet or 12,000 feet? So you get 2,000 more feet to think about how hard the ground is going to be. Same end result.

So it seems a lot of people are willing to roll the dice with Trump because they figure it can't be any worse than if Billary wins. I see their point. Whether I agree or not isn't relevant, but I do see why they are thinking the way they are.

And does anyone think if the R's lose this year that the leadership will permit a real conservative to run and stand a chance next time around? I don't think so. In fact, we may never see another final GE candidate that's a real conservative run again unless they run as an independent or a third party. We will be stuck with liberal and liberal-lite from the two major parties from here until the USA falls in on itself which, given the history of liberalism, is just a matter of time.

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Re: DUmmies Discuss Trump Craziness
« Reply #61 on: March 01, 2016, 06:17:24 PM »
Same here.


     Either prospect is an insult to the intelligence of any thinking American. I hate it, I REALLY hate it, but if a gun's at my head, I'd vote for Trump and try to think of Goldwater (PBUH).

     And if I'm wrong about him, I'll gladly admit it anywhere, anytime, to anyone.

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Re: DUmmies Discuss Trump Craziness
« Reply #62 on: March 01, 2016, 06:27:36 PM »
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As far as the rest,keep in mind that impeachment is virtually impossible unless the sitting Presidents own party is willing to go along and in Trumps case if he turned into a complete lib I suspect they would so it is not a given he can just go any which way on things with no possible recourse.

If anyone tried to impeach Trump, he would simply have them killed.

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Re: DUmmies Discuss Trump Craziness
« Reply #63 on: March 01, 2016, 06:35:42 PM »

     Either prospect is an insult to the intelligence of any thinking American. I hate it, I REALLY hate it, but if a gun's at my head, I'd vote for Trump and try to think of Goldwater (PBUH).

     And if I'm wrong about him, I'll gladly admit it anywhere, anytime, to anyone.

I am with you BFDU and have no delusions about Trump.
Nor am I a political neophyte and if a deal is to be sought I would rather he seek it with those that can preserve him over those that intend to politically speaking kill him.

If Scalia had not died I would be far more inclined to go the way you are thinking but now there is one opening on the Court.

Kennedy appointed by Reagan,a swing vote.

Thomas appointed by Bush I and solid.

Ginsburg and Breyer appointed by Clinton,leftist purists.

Roberts and Alito by Bush II,one swing one solid conservative.

Sotomayor and Kagan,by O and so far leftist purists.

That means the possibilty of a total of 5 justices possibly appointed by the next President in their first term given the ages.
If it is Hill they will all end up being leftist purists regardless what they are presented as.

If Trump truly has no actual values (I am not arguing that) then what would he be more willing to make a deal with,the GOP majority with some conservative support or a dem minority?

It is sucky but such is life and often politics.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Trump Craziness
« Reply #64 on: March 01, 2016, 06:50:33 PM »
I am with you BFDU and have no delusions about Trump.
Nor am I a political neophyte and if a deal is to be sought I would rather he seek it with those that can preserve him over those that intend to politically speaking kill him.

If Scalia had not died I would be far more inclined to go the way you are thinking but now there is one opening on the Court.

Kennedy appointed by Reagan,a swing vote.

Thomas appointed by Bush I and solid.

Ginsburg and Breyer appointed by Clinton,leftist purists.

Roberts and Alito by Bush II,one swing one solid conservative.

Sotomayor and Kagan,by O and so far leftist purists.

That means the possibilty of a total of 5 justices possibly appointed by the next President in their first term given the ages.
If it is Hill they will all end up being leftist purists regardless what they are presented as.

If Trump truly has no actual values (I am not arguing that) then what would he be more willing to make a deal with,the GOP majority with some conservative support or a dem minority?

It is sucky but such is life and often politics.


     Oh well. Tomorrow when Sanders is finished, all his supporters on DU will suddenly fall in love with Hillary, whereas I will never, ever support Trump, EVER.

     Let's just hope our side has enough money to bribe Blagojevich Trump to put a non-liberal on the court.

     
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Trump Craziness
« Reply #65 on: March 01, 2016, 07:03:07 PM »

     Oh well. Tomorrow when Sanders is finished, all his supporters on DU will suddenly fall in love with Hillary, whereas I will never, ever support Trump, EVER.

     Let's just hope our side has enough money to bribe Blagojevich Trump to put a non-liberal on the court.

   

I can`t support Trump but will accept him if needed given the near term stakes.

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Re: DUmmies Discuss Trump Craziness
« Reply #66 on: March 01, 2016, 07:26:28 PM »
If anyone tried to impeach Trump, he would simply have them killed.

Better watch out GB... Trump may call up the Gambino brothers and have you eliminated.   :tongue:
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Trump Craziness
« Reply #67 on: March 01, 2016, 07:34:02 PM »
I can`t support Trump but will accept him if needed given the near term stakes.

Yep.  I am tired of holding my damned nose and voting for the lesser evil.  This country has 350 million plus people... for goodness sakes is there not one person out there that can run on a platform of reforming the out of control elite in DC?  I'd be happy if someone just ran on the sole platform of implementing the fair tax.

Personally I feel that the best thing that could happen to this country if ISIS or AQ would wipe out DC.  DC is out of control.

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Re: DUmmies Discuss Trump Craziness
« Reply #68 on: March 02, 2016, 03:39:06 AM »
Who do I really want?  Cruz.  If he's still in come the NY primary, he's getting my vote.  As my 'neighbor' Carl said, if it's a choice between Clinton and Trump, I'm going with Trump.  Seeing that Cruz is now projected to take AK as well as TX and OK, he may be in long enough for my vote to matter.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Trump Craziness
« Reply #69 on: March 02, 2016, 07:10:04 AM »
Sorry, there is not way in HELL I can vote for Trump if he's the nominee. I'll just skip the Presidential vote and vote straight REP. for all Senate and House seats available. If I am forced to vote for President, I'll write in Micky Mouse before I'll vote for that clown Trump. He's a mockery to the process, and the damn voters are too blind (think cult) to see it.
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« Reply #70 on: March 02, 2016, 07:31:27 AM »
* Corrupt power-hungry male-hating crone

* Doddering improvident and incapable believer in a political ideology that slaughtered north of 100M innocents in the 20th Century

* Unprincipled crude demagogue

What a delightful choice!
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Trump Craziness
« Reply #71 on: March 02, 2016, 07:49:01 AM »
I wouldn't normally give John Oliver a second of serious thought, but this Trump takedown is hilarious.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnpO_RTSNmQ[/youtube]
I finally got to watch the whole thing. Brilliant.

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« Reply #72 on: March 02, 2016, 10:06:04 AM »
I finally got to watch the whole thing. Brilliant.

    Should be required viewing. It doesn't make one a liberal to acknowledge when a liberal is right about something. Now I see that Trump is threatening the Speaker of the House if he becomes President. That tears it for me - I'm not voting for that son of a bitch and I couldn't care less what anyone thinks.
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« Reply #73 on: March 02, 2016, 10:52:38 AM »
    Should be required viewing. It doesn't make one a liberal to acknowledge when a liberal is right about something. Now I see that Trump is threatening the Speaker of the House if he becomes President. That tears it for me - I'm not voting for that son of a bitch and I couldn't care less what anyone thinks.

Granted it's been a busy past day or two, but I missed him threatening the Speaker. What did he say? (In all honesty, I don't know).
Liberals disgust me. (Now I don't have to remember to put it on each post).

Because only the left goes searching for that which is not there in a desperate attempt to be offended about something.

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« Reply #74 on: March 02, 2016, 11:01:13 AM »
Granted it's been a busy past day or two, but I missed him threatening the Speaker. What did he say? (In all honesty, I don't know).

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/02/trump-paulryan-will-get-along-well-with-me-or-hes-gonna-have-to-pay-a-big-price/


     That's what we're in for: someone who has absolutely no idea of or use for the separation of powers under the Constitution. No, thank you.
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