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DUmmies Discuss Trump Craziness
« on: February 27, 2016, 06:22:23 PM »
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Some, even here in DU, have averred a "deal" between Bill Clinton and Donald Trump . . . .

. . . . to kill the Republican Party.

Do you think this is possible? Do you think this is, in fact, underway now?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027645276


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1. Yes I do. Maybe a deal... maybe a bet... maybe a dare.


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3. While I acknowledge that Trump's off-the scale narcissism is able to explain a lot...

this entire episode and his role is truly enigmatic to me. If some plot between the two ends up being the case, I will forever be in awe of the ability to pre-plan and manipulate in such a masterful fashion.

The alternative, that Trump is "for real" and so much of our population so ignorant, bigoted, and unthinking of consequences, is frightening to believe... and makes one begin to understand how a Hitler/Mussolini/Stalin can take hold--perhaps even here.


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5. It's certainly not impossible

I have to admit, I'm waiting for the punchline of the joke.


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8. A deal between the two, No. A dare...

One will really never know.


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Re: DUmmies Discuss Trump Craziness
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2016, 06:55:19 PM »
Possible but will take my chances on getting some domestic policy.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Trump Craziness
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2016, 10:21:28 PM »
Trump scares the libbies in general and the dummies in particular. Wetting their pants is what they are doing.  He has turned the MSM tactics back on them and it is driving them crazy. I honestly think neither party knows what to do with him.


I don't like Trump at all, not one bit.... ya gotta admit though it is entertaining to watch the elite of both parties shit their depends over a Bernie v Trump election. 

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Re: DUmmies Discuss Trump Craziness
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2016, 10:40:22 PM »
Quote from: I_B_Perky on February 27, 2016, 10:21:28 PM
Trump scares the libbies in general and the dummies in particular.
He scares me too.  He's stupid and dangerous.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Trump Craziness
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2016, 11:22:27 PM »
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ya gotta admit though it is entertaining

He was entertaining six months ago. Now he's embarrassing, offensive, and scary.

And the nuts who support him are scarier.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Trump Craziness
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2016, 04:44:48 AM »
Did anyone see the piece about the Stony Brook prof who developed a mathematical formula to predict the general election winner?  It was out about Thursday of last week.  He went back and the formula was able to predict the winner of every general election for President since 1912, except for the 1960 election.  Turns out that any Republican has a 61 percent chance of winning this GE, and Trump's chances range from in between 97 and 99 percent.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Trump Craziness
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2016, 04:57:36 AM »
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Did anyone see the piece about the Stony Brook prof who developed a mathematical formula to predict the general election winner?  It was out about Thursday of last week.  He went back and the formula was able to predict the winner of every general election for President since 1912, except for the 1960 election.  Turns out that any Republican has a 61 percent chance of winning this GE, and Trump's chances range from in between 97 and 99 percent.

I saw that. I'm pretty much undecided on who I want. I lean Cruz but it's becoming apparent he's out (my opinion).

Trump, for all his bluster, knows what office he's going for. I'm willing to bet his demeanor changes significantly IF elected. He's outspoken and turned the media on themselves, shut down hitlarys "war on women" with one tweet and is venting the anger most of America has by going after the establishment and traveling a road never before seen in American politics.

That said, I'm happy with either Trump or Cruz.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Trump Craziness
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2016, 05:35:03 AM »
Quote from: Patriot Guard Rider on February 28, 2016, 04:57:36 AM
I saw that. I'm pretty much undecided on who I want. I lean Cruz but it's becoming apparent he's out (my opinion).

Trump, for all his bluster, knows what office he's going for. I'm willing to bet his demeanor changes significantly IF elected. He's outspoken and turned the media on themselves, shut down hitlarys "war on women" with one tweet and is venting the anger most of America has by going after the establishment and traveling a road never before seen in American politics.

That said, I'm happy with either Trump or Cruz.

I agree 100%, with the caveat that he'll remember that disgruntled conservatives put him in a position to win.  If you're loyal to Trump, he's loyal to you.  It's the Way of Business.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Trump Craziness
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2016, 09:52:19 AM »
 :rotf: :lmao: A Clinton-Trump cabal to get The CHILL elected President?! :lmao: :rotf: :lmao: That's about the looniest thing I've heard in a long time. :lmao: :rotf: :lmao: I know this is from DU, but why are they venturing this far into FantasyLand?! :lmao: :rotf:

If nothing else, Trump's ego and ambition guarantee that he is running in earnest. And his rhetoric should have DU-folk buying Ex-Lax by the case.

Personally, Trump is too much of a government entrepreneur, and his bluster too reminiscent of Ahhhh-nold for me to trust. In the Primary at least.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Trump Craziness
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2016, 12:56:04 PM »
I wonder who funded that study.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Trump Craziness
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2016, 01:30:56 PM »
Quote from: GOBUCKS on February 28, 2016, 12:56:04 PM
I wonder who funded that study.

Seeing that he's at the State University of New York--Stony Brook, I'd say that the citizens of New York State did.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Trump Craziness
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2016, 02:53:24 PM »
Quote from: Chris_ on February 27, 2016, 10:40:22 PM
He scares me too.  He's stupid and dangerous.

True, but not as stupid and dangerous as the alternative of HiLIARy or Sanders Claus.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Trump Craziness
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2016, 03:22:52 PM »
Trump has all the right people hating him. Ergo he is my man.

Dear DUchebags, it won't be Trump that destroys the GOP. It will be the current elite of the party telling their base to FYSs. If  they do that it is the end of the republican party.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Trump Craziness
« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2016, 06:49:41 PM »
Quote from: Patriot Guard Rider on February 28, 2016, 04:57:36 AM
I saw that. I'm pretty much undecided on who I want. I lean Cruz but it's becoming apparent he's out (my opinion).

Trump, for all his bluster, knows what office he's going for. I'm willing to bet his demeanor changes significantly IF elected. He's outspoken and turned the media on themselves, shut down hitlarys "war on women" with one tweet and is venting the anger most of America has by going after the establishment and traveling a road never before seen in American politics.

That said, I'm happy with either Trump or Cruz.

Another in agreement. I do think that Trump would do a better job running against Hillary and will do better at getting "his way" as President. The only unknown is just exactly what will be "his way" once he gets elected. But over all I think Trump has the potential to be a great President.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Trump Craziness
« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2016, 09:37:34 PM »
Quote from: jukin on February 28, 2016, 03:22:52 PM
Trump has all the right people hating him. Ergo he is my man.

Dear DUchebags, it won't be Trump that destroys the GOP. It will be the current elite of the party telling their base to FYSs. If  they do that it is the end of the republican party.

Won't be the end of the GOP.  Just like if bernie is the nominee it won't be the end of the dems.  Too much old school elite money funding both.  They will pay lip service and chalk it up to the natives are restless. 

Quote from: fatboy on February 28, 2016, 06:49:41 PM
Another in agreement. I do think that Trump would do a better job running against Hillary and will do better at getting "his way" as President. The only unknown is just exactly what will be "his way" once he gets elected. But over all I think Trump has the potential to be a great President.

What scares me about Trump is I think he is really a NYC liberal doing a PT Barnum.  I think is he a very smart person and telling people what they want to hear.  Not too different like any other politician... but I believe the conservatives that support him are in for a big disappointment if he is elected.

The person that stands up and says his/her first day in office they will assign a task force to go thru the federal register with the goal of cutting out all the stupid regs in it and then push to enact the fair tax will get my vote.  That right there will free this country's shackles and allow the economy to recover.  Once the economy recovers, then we can turn our attention to the debt.

None of the politicians running want to take the power away from DC and to do that you take the power away to manipulate the tax code and the regulations.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Trump Craziness
« Reply #15 on: February 29, 2016, 08:11:44 AM »
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    3. While I acknowledge that Trump's off-the scale narcissism is able to explain a lot...

    this entire episode and his role is truly enigmatic to me. If some plot between the two ends up being the case, I will forever be in awe of the ability to pre-plan and manipulate in such a masterful fashion.

    The alternative, that Trump is "for real" and so much of our population so ignorant, bigoted, and unthinking of consequences, is frightening to believe... and makes one begin to understand how a Hitler/Mussolini/Stalin can take hold--perhaps even here.

It goes a long way to explain how Obama got elected and then reelected.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Trump Craziness
« Reply #16 on: February 29, 2016, 08:21:47 AM »
Quote from: FiddyBeowulf on February 29, 2016, 08:11:44 AM
It goes a long way to explain how Obama got elected and then reelected.

Plus why so many still think crazy bernie is going to hand them all keys to the treasury.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Trump Craziness
« Reply #17 on: February 29, 2016, 08:38:12 AM »
A comment. The Republicans in the House and Senate have allowed Obama to assume power that he is not granted in the Constitution. The only way we get a future Hitler type to exercise that kind of power in the WH is if congressional Republicans allow it. Checks and balances require input and action from the other branches of the government.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Trump Craziness
« Reply #18 on: February 29, 2016, 01:04:25 PM »
Quote from: I_B_Perky on February 28, 2016, 09:37:34 PM
Won't be the end of the GOP.  Just like if bernie is the nominee it won't be the end of the dems.  Too much old school elite money funding both.  They will pay lip service and chalk it up to the natives are restless. 

What scares me about Trump is I think he is really a NYC liberal doing a PT Barnum.  I think is he a very smart person and telling people what they want to hear.  Not too different like any other politician... but I believe the conservatives that support him are in for a big disappointment if he is elected.

The person that stands up and says his/her first day in office they will assign a task force to go thru the federal register with the goal of cutting out all the stupid regs in it and then push to enact the fair tax will get my vote.  That right there will free this country's shackles and allow the economy to recover.  Once the economy recovers, then we can turn our attention to the debt.

None of the politicians running want to take the power away from DC and to do that you take the power away to manipulate the tax code and the regulations.

Amen!!! I hope Cruz can pull it out. He seems to be the closest to a Constitutional Conservative of the bunch.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Trump Craziness
« Reply #19 on: February 29, 2016, 01:48:46 PM »
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What scares me about Trump is I think he is really a NYC liberal doing a PT Barnum.  I think is he a very smart person and telling people what they want to hear.  Not too different like any other politician... but I believe the conservatives that support him are in for a big disappointment if he is elected.


He is basically acting the role of the typical GOP/Rethuglican/TEAhadist in any DUmmie bouncy, thinking that is what the accurate portrayal of a conservative is.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Trump Craziness
« Reply #20 on: February 29, 2016, 01:59:41 PM »
No policy/angry and petty "Debate Trump" scares me.  But Trump vs political correctness I like.  I'm on again, off again with that Trump.  The whole thing is dizzying trying to wrap my head around it. 
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« Reply #21 on: February 29, 2016, 04:01:07 PM »
Quote from: GOBUCKS on February 27, 2016, 11:22:27 PM
He was entertaining six months ago. Now he's embarrassing, offensive, and scary.

And the nuts who support him are scarier.


     I think at some point we have to consider that accepting the devil we know is preferable to accepting the asshole scumbag idiot moron narcissist ****stick Trump. There has to be a line of thinking at the RNC that they harpoon Trump, he goes independent, normal people vote for whomever we trot out for the actual nominee, and we batten down the hatches for 2020. Trump vs Hillary is like choosing which nut I want kicked.

     Anyone claiming to be conservative cannot support Trump: he would absolutely enrich himself illegally. He would absolutely ignore every law he'd choose not to obey. He would absolutely use the power of the office to destroy anyone he so chooses. In brief, everything the liberals pretended to be true about Bush, will definitely be true of Trump. No thinking person can support that sorry, mentally ill son of a bitch.
     
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Trump Craziness
« Reply #22 on: February 29, 2016, 05:37:34 PM »
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But Trump vs political correctness I like.

The problem is, this vicious, raving lunatic and the nuts who support him consider any trace of human decency to be "political correctness".
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« Reply #23 on: February 29, 2016, 05:50:09 PM »
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The problem is, this vicious, raving lunatic and the nuts who support him consider any trace of human decency to be "political correctness".

With all due respect, human decency lead to Cologne, it has led to Calais and countless other cities worldwide. Political correctness and human decency, has led to a muslim invasion of europe, and shortly, here. Human decency, by allowing muslims into Russia, resulted in a toddler being beheaded in Moscow. Human decency led to a woman in Oklahoma being beheaded, at work, shelter worker in Sweden being murdered by a 15 year old (the same woman who took care of this savage). At what point, is enough, enough?

At what point do we say human decency, and political correctness, doesn't work with savages living in the 7th century?

Trumps support comes from exactly that. People tired of seeing what's going on, and what's a stake (steak as the DUmmies would say), and decide something drastic must be done.

Personally, I don't have a problem with illegals from mexico being here PROVIDED they are law abiding, pay taxes, love their families and make every effort to assimilate. Kick out the illegal gang bangers (that'd be 100's of thousands, with strict monitoring (via a wall if necessary), to guard against them coming back.

Tax the illegals here when they send remittance back to mexico at 20% or so. Sure, that'll lead to an underground to get cash back, but when hit in the wallet, many will voluntarily go back.

I understand your point, but in my opinion, enough is enough. Trump or Cruz, provided they're tough on immigration and getting rid of lawless illegals, is ok by me.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Trump Craziness
« Reply #24 on: February 29, 2016, 05:58:13 PM »
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With all due respect, human decency lead to Cologne, it has led to Calais and countless other cities worldwide. Political correctness and human decency, has led to a muslim invasion of europe, and shortly, here.

No. Human decency would have been helping those people stay in their own country and fighting to help make it a better place. Liberal Political Correctness was letting them invade other countries.
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