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Illinois Army vet saves 16 kids from knife-wielding teen
« on: October 17, 2015, 09:18:22 PM »
Just lit campfire.  Zero replies.  Interesting to see what the gun grabbers have to say.


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Illinois Army vet saves 16 kids from knife-wielding teen reportedly plotting mass murder

MORTON, Ill. (AP) — A 75-year-old Army veteran who fought off a knife-wielding man who was threatening to kill children at an Illinois library says training he received nearly five decades ago helped him in the scuffle.

James Vernon was teaching a chess class with 16 children at Morton Public Library when authorities say 19-year-old Dustin Brown entered the room with two knives. According to a court affidavit, Brown told police afterward that he "failed in his mission to kill everyone."

"He actually ran into the room yelling, 'I'm going to kill some people!' He was holding two knives," Vernon told the Pekin Daily News. Vernon described the knives as "hunting types" with "fixed blades about 5 inches" long.

Vernon, a retired Caterpillar Inc. employee, told the newspaper he remembered the knife-fight training the Army had given him. Despite his cuts, Vernon contended he won his "90 seconds of combat" with Brown, "but I felt like I lost the war." He suffered two cut arteries and a tendon in his left hand as he blocked Brown's knife swipe.


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1. It's a good thing 19-year-old Dustin Brown didn't have a gun. n/t
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Re: Illinois Army vet saves 16 kids from knife-wielding teen
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2015, 10:36:28 PM »
It's a bad thing Vernon didn't have a gun.
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Re: Illinois Army vet saves 16 kids from knife-wielding teen
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2015, 07:22:49 AM »
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1. It's a good thing 19-year-old Dustin Brown didn't have a gun. n/t

True, as far as it goes. James Vernon, bare-handed, one-on-one, might not have prevented killings. H-5 to ChuckJ: had Vernon had a gun he would have saved all those lives without having to have surgery to repair his slashed tendon and arteries.

If DU-folk finally start chiming in, it'll be to rip on Vernon. Vernon should have called the police ... Vernon is a secretly crazed Vietnam (era) vet ... blah, blah, blah ... woof, woof, woof.
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Re: Illinois Army vet saves 16 kids from knife-wielding teen
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2015, 09:35:54 AM »
True, as far as it goes. James Vernon, bare-handed, one-on-one, might not have prevented killings. H-5 to ChuckJ: had Vernon had a gun he would have saved all those lives without having to have surgery to repair his slashed tendon and arteries.

If DU-folk finally start chiming in, it'll be to rip on Vernon. Vernon should have called the police ... Vernon is a secretly crazed Vietnam (era) vet ... blah, blah, blah ... woof, woof, woof.

Thanks. I didn't go to the DU link, but I had read the story elsewhere. My gun comment sort of came from two directions. The first is naturally is that the vet could have defended himself and protected the children without suffering an injury. The second is that the loon with the knife was either facing or had already been convicted of child porn charges so there is a chance that a vet with a gun could have saved the state from incarceration charges.
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Re: Illinois Army vet saves 16 kids from knife-wielding teen
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2015, 09:47:21 AM »
The second is that the loon with the knife was either facing or had already been convicted of child porn charges so there is a chance that a vet with a gun could have saved the state from incarceration charges.

Not exactly on-topic, but DU-folks and many other Libs/Progs seem to equate emergency actions, such as a civilian or police officer defending themselves in the face of imminent danger with court trials. Killing an attacking burglar or thug is not, "playing judge and jury," "giving the death sentence for burglary".
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Re: Illinois Army vet saves 16 kids from knife-wielding teen
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2015, 11:26:02 AM »
The Dying One, the soon-to-be-deceased Omaha Steve, popped in on this  thread to K&R but that was it.  Here is what he appeared to K&R for those interested.  I normally don't go over to the Island but I was curous:

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3. Mr. Vernon is a hero beyond measure.

If he were active duty I would recommend him for a CMH, or at least a Silver Star.
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