This is interesting

[I_B_Perky]

Seems Mickie D's workers went and protested the Mickie D's shareholder meeting cause they want more money.

Here is the good part....

First the link:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2015/05/21/mcdonalds-workers-shareholders-meeting-protest/27705321/

Some excerpts:

"It's a struggle to pay my basic bills and have even a few dollars left over for unexpected needs or an emergency," said Richard Eiker, 46, who works at a Kansas City, Mo., McDonald's and took part in the protest. He earns $11.05 an hour after working at the same franchise for 15 years.

15 years he has worked there. Since he was 31. And he ain't a manager yet?      Shiite. I've seen people start out as cook or cashier and be manager in 5 years.

Karla Pena, 29, who works at McDonald's on Chicago's South Side and earns $8.45 per hour, says her employer has polished its image in communities through outlets like Ronald McDonald House Charities. She noted the company's "I'm lovin' it campaign." But she said that company spirit doesn't extend to employees making burgers and fries.

"We can't pay our rent or heating bill with 'lovin,'" Pena said.

29 years old and still working at Mickie D's as a cashier?   

Funny how I did not see the above mentioned in this article from NBC:

http://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/not-lovin-it-hundreds-march-mcdonalds-headquarters-protest-low-wages-n362291

Some of the comments could come right out of the dump.

[Chris_]

15 years he has worked there. Since he was 31. And he ain't a manager yet?

No shit, you'd think he'd know that place inside and out.  Starting management pay is usually $15/hr plus benefits.  Talk about sad.

[obumazombie]

I always wondered where the post office recruited workers from.

[Big Dog]

"It's a struggle to pay my basic bills and have even a few dollars left over for unexpected needs or an emergency," said Richard Eiker, 46, who works at a Kansas City, Mo., McDonald's and took part in the protest. He earns $11.05 an hour after working at the same franchise for 15 years.

Hey, it's this guy!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoBc-eNZO6k[/youtube]

[SVPete]

My son worked at a KFC for a year and was promoted to assistant manager. So, yeah, IF those two have been employed at M for that many years, there's something left out of their stories. Poor attendance? Poor work habits? Lack of willingness to learn? Doesn't work well with others? Poor attitude?

[thundley4]

My company hires some people from a temp agency for floor sweepers and general maintenance stuff.  Things that aren't covered by the union contract.  These guys make $10.50/hour and they get 40 hours a week and can get OT if they want it.  They can also buy insurance through their temp agency for $35/week.

None of the work they do is very hard or strenuous, yet the occasional young guys that come from that agency don't stay very long. They miss too much work, show up late and are general screwups.

[Lacarnut]

My son worked at a KFC for a year and was promoted to assistant manager. So, yeah, IF those two have been employed at M for that many years, there's something left out of their stories. Poor attendance? Poor work habits? Lack of willingness to learn? Doesn't work well with others? Poor attitude?

It is also a good possibility that these two are dumb as a rock, could not handle more responsibilities and are not worth $5 an hour. Have seen many that fit that description. 

[SVPete]

My company hires some people from a temp agency for floor sweepers and general maintenance stuff.  Things that aren't covered by the union contract.  These guys make $10.50/hour and they get 40 hours a week and can get OT if they want it.  They can also buy insurance through their temp agency for $35/week.

None of the work they do is very hard or strenuous, yet the occasional young guys that come from that agency don't stay very long. They miss too much work, show up late and are general screwups.

It is also a good possibility that these two are dumb as a rock, could not handle more responsibilities and are not worth $5 an hour. Have seen many that fit that description.

One time my son was asked by a coworker why he worked so diligently. My son knew it was futile to try to explain, so he just said, "Because I'm paid to."

There is also intentional self-limiting (not that these two seem to fit that category). My son could have become, at age 20ish a full manager at KFC (which also included part ownership in a restaurant), and later, a manager at Walgreen's. He decided that neither were what he wanted to do in life, and would interfere too much with college. So he did neither, got his degree (a major with a career path!), and is "out there" being productive at something he likes.

Burger-flipping and order-taking were never designed to be long-term careers. They were intended to be short-term jobs for young people's "first" jobs and for people who needed to supplement their income with a part-time job.

People who are trying to make burger-flipping and order-taking long-term, family-supporting careers are where they are due to their life choices. That could mean immigrants who have limited education and command of English; that's usually a good life choice, and many of these will find/learn ways to better themselves. People like the ones in this article made/make foolish life choices: screwing around in school; screwing around without being married or having the ability to support a family; laziness and arrogance/defiance; buying things they can't afford.

[SVPete]

It is also a good possibility that these two are dumb as a rock, could not handle more responsibilities and are not worth $5 an hour. Have seen many that fit that description.

Companies that are good to work for want employees who can advance: diligent, willing/able to learn. Developing talent internally is a heck of a lot less expensive than recruiting talent and orienting them to a new job and company.

One of the times I was laid off the pretext was that they thought I didn't have the ability/willingness to advance in the company. Well, they were right ... the marketplace bypassed that company and it hasn't existed in any meaningful sense for 15 or 20 years. I, OTOH, have reinvented myself several times since that layoff.

That company was really just getting rid of longer-term employees with higher salaries for their positions and higher vacation accrual rates. They were entirely within their legal rights, of course, but they also threw out a lot of good people who knew a lot about the company's products and the structure of the company. I suspect those long-term losses quickly outweighed the short-term $$ gain. Being bypassed by the marketplace was an upper manglement error: those mismanglers soon suffered the consequences of their mismanglement.

[I_B_Perky]

No shit, you'd think he'd know that place inside and out.  Starting management pay is usually $15/hr plus benefits.  Talk about sad.

I would think he would move up by simple attrition. At the very least shift manager.  Sounds like a dummie to me. 

[andaronjim]

Back in 1976 i went to work at McD's part time at $2.10 an hour, a burger, fry and small drink would cost you 95 cents.  Today with minimum wage at $7.50 those same items would be worth over $3.30.  Not much progress in wages with inflation adjusted dollars.  Of course a trans am firebird was valued at $7,000 today be over $40,000 if Pontiac was still around. A house back then went for $45,000 today over $300,000.  After working 6 months at McD's i went to become a short order chef at Bill Kapps, and after 1 year received a 15 cent raise so my hourly salary was $2.25.  Then minium wage was increased to $2.25 an hour and i was back making minimum wage but knew the whole store.  I decided that minimum wage was crap, and went into the military to learn how to fix electronics of aircraft.  Once i learned those skills, i was able to make GREAT wages.   There will always be those that cannot LEARN , and they will always be screwed by their politicians. 

[SVPete]

Back in 1976 i went to work at McD's part time at $2.10 an hour, a burger, fry and small drink would cost you 95 cents.  Today with minimum wage at $7.50 those same items would be worth over $3.30.  Not much progress in wages with inflation adjusted dollars.  Of course a trans am firebird was valued at $7,000 today be over $40,000 if Pontiac was still around. A house back then went for $45,000 today over $300,000.  After working 6 months at McD's i went to become a short order chef at Bill Kapps, and after 1 year received a 15 cent raise so my hourly salary was $2.25.  Then minium wage was increased to $2.25 an hour and i was back making minimum wage but knew the whole store.  I decided that minimum wage was crap, and went into the military to learn how to fix electronics of aircraft.  Once i learned those skills, i was able to make GREAT wages.   There will always be those that cannot LEARN , and they will always be screwed by their politicians.

I suspect you meant "Will not LEARN".

I had entry-level jobs - chopping weeds in a seed company's field, fast-food cook, delivery/clean-up for an equipment and party stuff rental place, bookstore clerk - when I was in high school and in college. They aren't supposed to be a career - unless into manglement or growing into a high-end restaurant chef.

USAF or USN? If you worked on any A-10 PUs I might have tested some of them. And I saw F-18 HUD S/N 001 shipped new from the manufacturer.

[SVPete]

More on-topic ...

Not much progress in wages with inflation adjusted dollars.

This is what Libs & Progs so vigorously try to deny - to themselves and to those unfortunate enough to be listening to them! Artificially setting the lowest wage ~50% higher than it currently is will set off a whole process of adjustments that will mean jobs lost, jobs not created, and inflationary price increases.

[JohnnyReb]

1963, hamburgers were 15 cent and cheeseburgers were 19 cent at HARDEES. You could get a big cheeseburger with large patty, thick slice of tomato, lots of lettuce and thick slice of cheese at any greasy spoon joint for 35 cent.....add a 12 oz BUD at 35 cent and it made a pretty good meal for 70 cent. Minimum wage was $1.25 per hr.

[andaronjim]

Worked on A-10s at Davis-Montham AFB AZ for 3 years, then crosstrained into F-15s at Langly AFB for 3 years.  Got out and went overseas as a contractor in Saudi Arabia after the 1st gulf war.  There were McD's in Dhahran S.A. where the wages were 3 dollars a day, 3 meals and a cot, those were the 3rd world employees.  American minimum wage earners have no clue how good they have it, really..