Don't Run Away, BuzzClik. I have a question for you.

[Big Dog]

Buzzy, you are trying to avoid a lot of inconvenient truth here at the Cave. Do you have the cojones to answer this question?

Given: A homosexual owns a custom cake making business in Topeka, Kansas . If Shirley Phelps of the Westboro Baptist Church walked into his shop and ordered a cake decorated with an upside-down US flag and a cross dripping blood, and the words 'God Hates Fags', would that baker be obligated to make that cake?

[98ZJUSMC]

Or, .........

https://www.youtube.com/embed/RgWIhYAtan4

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Or even us.

The Phelps clan is not liked in the least in conservative circles (conservatives are the ones known as Patriot Riders keeping the Phelps from disrupting veteran funerals).

Should conservatives have the right to refuse service to the Phelps House of Inbred Hatred based solely on the religion of the Phelps...even though religion is a defined class in federal law (unlike faggotry, which is imposed by the judiciary).

[BuzzClik]

Or, .........

I answered this one on a previous thread.

No, the Muslim baker -- under laws in most states -- cannot discriminate against people for sexual orientation. They are subject to legal action.

[BuzzClik]

Buzzy, you are trying to avoid a lot of inconvenient truth here at the Cave. Do you have the cojones to answer this question?

Given: A homosexual owns a custom cake making business in Topeka, Kansas . If Shirley Phelps of the Westboro Baptist Church walked into his shop and ordered a cake decorated with an upside-down US flag and a cross dripping blood, and the words 'God Hates Fags', would that baker be obligated to make that cake?

Pretty weak, Big Dog. Maybe this should be in the Mind Numbing Stupidity forum. But, since you squeezed it out here, I'll answer:

The pizza parlor announced that they were going to take advantage of the new Indiana law and discriminate against gays when it came to providing services. Refusing to construct a cake that you describe doesn't fall under the same category of discrimination. Bakers are not obligated to put whatever level of obscenity on a cake a customer wants. Refusing to put "God Hates Fags" or the other sh*t you described is within the baker's rights.

There's my answer.

As for running away -- I'm still here. If you post something interesting (or dirt stupid), I might reply. Or not.

[Big Dog]

typical DUmmy bullshit

Typical DUmnyhood, Buzz. I asked you a question with a simple yes-or-no answer, and you blah-blah-blahed your way in a circle.

Let's try this again.  If Shirley Phelps walked into a homosexual-owned bakery and ordered a custom cake decorated with an upside-down US flag, a bloody cross, and the words 'God Hates Fags', would that baker be obligated to make and decorate that cake?

Yes, or no?

[obumazombie]

Try your best to focus, lib.

[BuzzClik]

Typical DUmnyhood, Buzz. I asked you a question with a simple yes-or-no answer, and you blah-blah-blahed your way in a circle.

Let's try this again.  If Shirley Phelps walked into a homosexual-owned bakery and ordered a custom cake decorated with an upside-down US flag, a bloody cross, and the words 'God Hates Fags', would that baker be obligated to make and decorate that cake?

Yes, or no?

no

[Mary Ann]

I answered this one on a previous thread.

No, the Muslim baker -- under laws in most states -- cannot discriminate against people for sexual orientation. They are subject to legal action.

But why aren't the Muslim bakers getting death threats from the liberal brownshirts? Why isn't some lesbian golf coach tweeting out an invitation to burn down their business? Haven't checked, but are there hate messages on their Facebook page?

Seems to me, it's only Christians that you people want to destroy. It's only Christianity that you would like to see changed to fit your views.

[ChuckJ]

When we are talking about the bakery we’re talking about someone providing or denying a service. Let’s just forget about the bakery and focus on providing or denying a service.

I claim to have been born right-wing just like a homosexuals claims to have been born homosexual. Should DU be allowed to deny me a service based on my right-wingism? If so, why?

[docstew]

no

Why not? What is your reasoning for denial? Take into consideration that the WBC's "religious beliefs", repugnant as they are, are Constitutionally-protected. Are you saying that service providers have a right to refuse service if they find the service personally offensive?

Since you stated that the design of the cake would be obscene, let's change the scenario. It's just a regular cake, one that could be purchased at any particular supermarket with a bakery, but the WBC has come to THIS specific bakery due to the sexual orientation of the owner, in order to add insult to injury. Is the baker within their rights to refuse service?

[Carl]

Pretty weak, Big Dog. Maybe this should be in the Mind Numbing Stupidity forum. But, since you squeezed it out here, I'll answer:

The pizza parlor announced that they were going to take advantage of the new Indiana law and discriminate against gays when it came to providing services. Refusing to construct a cake that you describe doesn't fall under the same category of discrimination. Bakers are not obligated to put whatever level of obscenity on a cake a customer wants. Refusing to put "God Hates Fags" or the other sh*t you described is within the baker's rights.

There's my answer.

As for running away -- I'm still here. If you post something interesting (or dirt stupid), I might reply. Or not.

No they didn`t,you are a ****ing liar.

[Undies]

No they didn`t,you are a ****ing liar.

Bha-ha-ha-ha..........That's like telling a dog he is ****ing furry.

[BuzzClik]

No they didn`t,you are a ****ing liar.

Uh, yeah, they did. I provided the video of an interview and the transcription of the exact quote on another thread. Read my words carefully, Carl: they portray what was said with 100% accuracy.

[docstew]

Pretty weak, Big Dog. Maybe this should be in the Mind Numbing Stupidity forum. But, since you squeezed it out here, I'll answer:

The pizza parlor announced that they were going to take advantage of the new Indiana law and discriminate against gays when it came to providing services. Refusing to construct a cake that you describe doesn't fall under the same category of discrimination. Bakers are not obligated to put whatever level of obscenity on a cake a customer wants. Refusing to put "God Hates Fags" or the other sh*t you described is within the baker's rights.

There's my answer.

As for running away -- I'm still here. If you post something interesting (or dirt stupid), I might reply. Or not.

The word "announced" implies that they intended to make an official policy change, something along the lines of posting signs in the door of "effective such and such date, we will no longer serve pizza to the gheys".

There was no announcement. They were targeted by this TV "reporter"/liberal activist (BIRM). You may dispute targeting, but by a quick google search, there are over 200 restaurants in South Bend, the home base of that TV station. I wouldn't expect a reporter from Raleigh to come to Fayetteville where I live for a story unless they were looking for a specific story. You shouldn't either. It's not a reasonable expectation. Therefore, this "reporter" went there looking for this response.

Words mean things, Buzz. When you learn that, you may start to hold your own against us.

BTW, still waiting on your response to the questions I asked. Are you scared to answer them? Or do you concede that your arguments are untenable?

[Skul]

Uh, yeah, they did. I provided the video of an interview and the transcription of the exact quote on another thread. Read my words carefully, Carl: they portray what was said with 100% accuracy.

Again a lie.  Do stew beat me to the exposure.
It's a shame that you continue to attempt to deliberately distort the truth.
You're just a troll, buzzy. You're wildly stroking your little nubbin under the table, while pecking at the keyboard with the other hand.
We know you're trolling, DUmmie. We also know you are under the delusion that you're doing a fabulous job. We're deliberately feeding you buzzy. We have a camera under that table, and it's showing any visitors what a true jerkoff, you really are.
Please don't leave, the camera is still running.

[BuzzClik]

The word "announced" implies that they intended to make an official policy change, something along the lines of posting signs in the door of "effective such and such date, we will no longer serve pizza to the gheys".

There was no announcement...

You don't like the word "announcement"? Fine, but they said what they said. Period.

BTW, still waiting on your response to the questions I asked. Are you scared to answer them? Or do you concede that your arguments are untenable?

I have no idea what questions you asked. I either missed them or ignored them. Repeat them here or tell me where to look, and I consider answering them.

[Carl]

Uh, yeah, they did. I provided the video of an interview and the transcription of the exact quote on another thread. Read my words carefully, Carl: they portray what was said with 100% accuracy.

The exact ambush/gotcha situation is well known fool.
They did not seek a camera to declare "Hallelujah,we will not serve the gays".
To represent what happened in the pizza place as anything different is an out and out lie.

[Carl]

You don't like the word "announcement"? Fine, but they said what they said. Period.

I have no idea what questions you asked. I either missed them or ignored them. Repeat them here or tell me where to look, and I consider answering them.

No asshole,you misrepresented what happened and declared a falsehood and were called on it.
That makes you a ****ing liar as I said.

[Mr Mannn]

No asshole,you misrepresented what happened and declared a falsehood and were called on it.
That makes you a ****ing liar as I said.

All DUmmies lie...all the time.
This is why we are better than them

[BuzzClik]

No asshole,you misrepresented what happened and declared a falsehood and were called on it.
That makes you a ****ing liar as I said.

Nope. I merely restated what the young woman said on camera, and nothing more. You created to different and incorrect context for my comments in an attempt to disprove me.

She said what she said. That is an indelible fact. She said that if gays came into her pizza place and asked them to sell them pizzas for a gay wedding, they would refuse. That's it. She said it, I quoted her.

There is NOTHING inaccurate in the way I quoted her.

[Carl]

Nope. I merely restated what the young woman said on camera, and nothing more. You created to different and incorrect context for my comments in an attempt to disprove me.

She said what she said. That is an indelible fact. She said that if gays came into her pizza place and asked them to sell them pizzas for a gay wedding, they would refuse. That's it. She said it, I quoted her.

There is NOTHING inaccurate in the way I quoted her.

You are not even too clever by half mutt.
You said she announced,that is far different then answering a set up,hypothetical question designed to be a "gotcha".

Even in this statement you lie as they were not asked if they would just randomly sell them but if they would provide a catering service.
You are so far in over empty head it is hilarious. 

[Bad Dog]

Nope. I merely restated what the young woman said on camera, and nothing more. You created to different and incorrect context for my comments in an attempt to disprove me.

She said what she said. That is an indelible fact. She said that if gays came into her pizza place and asked them to sell them pizzas for a gay wedding, they would refuse. That's it. She said it, I quoted her.

There is NOTHING inaccurate in the way I quoted her.

Partial (out of context) quote - accurate, characterization - inaccurate (actually a conscious lie).

[BuzzClik]

You are not even too clever by half mutt.
You said she announced,that is far different then answering a set up,hypothetical question designed to be a "gotcha".

Even in this statement you lie as they were not asked if they would just randomly sell them but if they would provide a catering service.
You are so far in over empty head it is hilarious. 

Okay. I get it.

You're not interested in a discussion at any level.

Done and done.

[Bad Dog]

Buzzy, back when you voted for Regan (two times), were you a "Log Cabin" Republican?