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Proglodytes begging Obama to stage a coup
« on: September 19, 2013, 01:19:16 PM »
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Finally: Obama uses the E word.
 
And I'm not talking about "Election."

I'm talking about EXTORTION, which is exactly what the Rethuglican party is trying to do in its threats to shut down the government and/or go into default unless he agrees to defunding or delaying Obamacare.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/18/obama-debt-ceiling_n_3948809.html

WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama accused Republicans of extortion on Wednesday for planning to tie a vote to raise the debt ceiling to an effort to sink the Affordable Care Act.

During remarks at Business Roundtable, Obama said the country may be heading toward a debt default if Republicans don't stop tying unrelated items to the otherwise "basic function" of raising the debt ceiling. The government is on track to run out of money in mid-October, and House Republican leaders said Wednesday that they'll vote as soon as next week on a bill that ties a one-year delay in Obamacare to raising the debt limit.

"You have never seen in the history of the United States ... the threat of not raising the debt ceiling being used to extort a president or a governing party, and trying to force issues that have nothing to do with the budget and have nothing to do with the debt," Obama said.

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Avalux (29,383 posts)

1. Good. Next he should call them traitors -
 
and have them arrested for treason.

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2. Yes !

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5. Why do you think the founding fathers used the term all threats foreign and "DOMESTIC"

They were not the mental lightweights the tea party makes them out to be

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6. Veterans should remember that it was part of their enlistment oath.

"support and defend against all enemies foreign and DOMESTIC"

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Ironically, these are the same sons-of-bitches who bang the war drum and threaten to shut down the government tasked with waging it. I honestly wonder if they are even mentally competent enough to charge with sedition.

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9. Sedition

I think they're guilty of Sedition under the US Code. "Force" I interpret as their bullying.

If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

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14. Sedition and the US legal code
 
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Let's hope the media know and report this.

On edit - 'by force" is the key modifier. While the behavior is seditious, it doesn't equate to a seditious conspiracy as defined in the US legal code - http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/uscode/18/I/115/2384

But I'm not a lawyer so I don't know if force always implies physical force.

As an aside, the US code re: sedition and treason is a really interesting read. I hadn't thought to look it up until seeing your post.

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18 U.S.C. § 2385 : US Code - Section 2385: Advocating overthrow of Government reads as:


Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; - See more at: http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/uscode/18/I/115/2385#sthash.vW7pvXnZ.dpuf

I'm including this section of the code since it has the words violence and force. Which begs the question - is there a different legal definition of force that doesn't include violence

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27. One of the legal definitions of Force

Force means power, violence, or pressure directed against a person or thing. Force is a compulsion by physical means or by legal requirement.

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4. Extortionist, Racketeers, Traitors, Crooks and Corrupt Bastards.
 
All those words apply.

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Re: Proglodytes begging Obama to stage a coup
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2013, 01:29:21 PM »
If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

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Re: Proglodytes begging Obama to stage a coup
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2013, 01:43:56 PM »
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delay the execution of any law of the United States,

There you go, him and Sebelius.

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Re: Proglodytes begging Obama to stage a coup
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2013, 01:44:08 PM »
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If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States,

Sounds like the DUmmies are guilty since they are basically calling for a coup to keep Obama in power.
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Re: Proglodytes begging Obama to stage a coup
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2013, 02:06:13 PM »
Sounds like the DUmmies are guilty since they are basically calling for a coup to keep Obama in power.

It sounds to me as if they're describing blue city machine politics, or labor unions, or somesuch.
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Re: Proglodytes begging Obama to stage a coup
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2013, 02:14:27 PM »
Scratch a fascist find a DUchebag.
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Re: Proglodytes begging Obama to stage a coup
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2013, 02:25:13 PM »
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1. Good. Next he should call them traitors -
 
and have them arrested for treason.

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJxmpTMGhU0[/youtube]






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Re: Proglodytes begging Obama to stage a coup
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2013, 02:30:13 PM »
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJxmpTMGhU0[/youtube]

If you had to live with that, you too would rape women and hope to go to prison.....except she kept getting him out of trouble....she needed to ride his coat tails, not his dick.
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Re: Proglodytes begging Obama to stage a coup
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2013, 02:31:35 PM »
Lets dance, DUmbasses.
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Re: Proglodytes begging Obama to stage a coup
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2013, 02:36:47 PM »
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Finally: Obama uses the E word.
 
And I'm not talking about "Election."

I'm talking about EXTORTION, which is exactly what the Rethuglican party is trying to do in its threats to shut down the government and/or go into default unless he agrees to defunding or delaying Obamacare.

http://www.huffingtonpost...bt-ceiling_n_3948809.html

WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama accused Republicans of extortion on Wednesday for planning to tie a vote to raise the debt ceiling to an effort to sink the Affordable Care Act.

During remarks at Business Roundtable, Obama said the country may be heading toward a debt default if Republicans don't stop tying unrelated items to the otherwise "basic function" of raising the debt ceiling. The government is on track to run out of money in mid-October, and House Republican leaders said Wednesday that they'll vote as soon as next week on a bill that ties a one-year delay in Obamacare to raising the debt limit.

"You have never seen in the history of the United States ... the threat of not raising the debt ceiling being used to extort a president or a governing party, and trying to force issues that have nothing to do with the budget and have nothing to do with the debt," Obama said.

SNIP

Well, at least not since the last time you and your minions did it, anyway!

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Re: Proglodytes begging Obama to stage a coup
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2013, 02:44:06 PM »
Lets dance, DUmbasses.

I can has civil war II?  :-)

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Re: Proglodytes begging Obama to stage a coup
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2013, 02:46:00 PM »
I can has civil war II?  :-)



I'm tired of their talking. Let's see some action or shut the hell up, libs.
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Re: Proglodytes begging Obama to stage a coup
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2013, 03:26:55 PM »
Is this another Obama red line?  :popcorn:
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Re: Proglodytes begging Obama to stage a coup
« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2013, 03:28:46 PM »
Lets dance, DUmbasses.

say that in your Clint Eastwood voice






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Re: Proglodytes begging Obama to stage a coup
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2013, 03:29:52 PM »
Is this another Obama red line?  :popcorn:

I think Obama himself would admit he's better with white lines than red ones...
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Re: Proglodytes begging Obama to stage a coup
« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2013, 03:50:34 PM »
Yeah, cuz the founders made 3 branches of government for the sole purpose of funding whatever the executive branch wants. Saves him the trouble of carpal tunnel syndrome from writing all those executive orders. Their stupidity is just stunning.

And the idiot who said we thought the founders were political lightweights: yeah, that's why we're always the ones who think the Constitution should be the only law of the land. You guys are the ones who call them a bunch of rich white Christian misynist, racist pigs (not true, btw).

Interesting how you guys always want to follow the Constitution when you think it supports your whining when poor wittle 0bama doesn't get his way. You lemmings would jump off a cliff for him if he told you his socialist utopia was down there. Whatever he or any other "prominent" dem says, you dutifully start parroting it. That's what happens whe you're not capable of thinking for yourself.

You want treason: Rewriting laws through executive orders because it doesn't work. Even the dems in congress were pissed when he rewrote the 0bamacare law to grant large corporations extensions. Or, one of his most recent: signing an executive order that allows him to send weapons to terrorists (you know, the guys who blew up the twin towers) and who've been busy for a few years now killing our troops. Oh, wait, you don't care about that because in your heart you hate the military.

Checks and balances is key to our republic. You might try reading that part before parroting the boy king's hyperbole.

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Re: Proglodytes begging Obama to stage a coup
« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2013, 04:30:13 PM »
Is this another Obama red line?  :popcorn:

Oof!
Their stupidity is just stunning.

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Re: Proglodytes begging Obama to stage a coup
« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2013, 04:33:31 PM »
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6. Veterans should remember that it was part of their enlistment oath.

"support and defend against all enemies foreign and DOMESTIC"

Yeah, well, that might not turn out quite the way you have in mind, ya know.

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Re: Proglodytes begging Obama to stage a coup
« Reply #18 on: September 19, 2013, 04:39:57 PM »
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6. Veterans should remember that it was part of their enlistment oath.

"support and defend THE CONSTITUTION against all enemies foreign and DOMESTIC"

Yeah, well, that might not turn out quite the way you have in mind, ya know.

 :popcorn:

Curious how the DUmmy left out the two most important words of that oath. :confused:  My guess: he was counting on the other DUmmies filling in the blank with such endearing substitutes as The Government, Dear Leader, The Administration, The Holy WON of Shitcago...

Silly DUmbshit...  :lmao:
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« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2013, 04:55:59 PM »
Hey DUmmies dissent is patriotic. I bet none of the drug addled idiots of DU remember saying that.
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Re: Proglodytes begging Obama to stage a coup
« Reply #20 on: September 19, 2013, 05:19:22 PM »
Yeah, cuz the founders made 3 branches of government for the sole purpose of funding whatever the executive branch wants. Saves him the trouble of carpal tunnel syndrome from writing all those executive orders. Their stupidity is just stunning.

And the idiot who said we thought the founders were political lightweights: yeah, that's why we're always the ones who think the Constitution should be the only law of the land. You guys are the ones who call them a bunch of rich white Christian misynist, racist pigs (not true, btw).

Interesting how you guys always want to follow the Constitution when you think it supports your whining when poor wittle 0bama doesn't get his way. You lemmings would jump off a cliff for him if he told you his socialist utopia was down there. Whatever he or any other "prominent" dem says, you dutifully start parroting it. That's what happens whe you're not capable of thinking for yourself.

You want treason: Rewriting laws through executive orders because it doesn't work. Even the dems in congress were pissed when he rewrote the 0bamacare law to grant large corporations extensions. Or, one of his most recent: signing an executive order that allows him to send weapons to terrorists (you know, the guys who blew up the twin towers) and who've been busy for a few years now killing our troops. Oh, wait, you don't care about that because in your heart you hate the military.

Checks and balances is key to our republic. You might try reading that part before parroting the boy king's hyperbole.

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Re: Proglodytes begging Obama to stage a coup
« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2013, 01:30:14 AM »
^5 Baby!!!!

Damn, you and "Toots" was born outa the same mind!

Have you watched "Agenda" yet? If y'all haven't I'll get a link. Tells us everything we already knew, but gives us a tool in order to teach those with no clue. Made it a must see in my family, and since I'm the biggest Bull in the barn, they'll do what I tell 'em! Just like when I handed out the pocket Constitution. If it ain't on 'em, it's in the glove box!

Don't think I've seen it. I've heard of it. I'd love the link.

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Re: Proglodytes begging Obama to stage a coup
« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2013, 03:03:44 AM »
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5. Why do you think the founding fathers used the term all threats foreign and "DOMESTIC"

They were not the mental lightweights the tea party makes them out to be

Remind me which party looks at the Founders as "a bunch of dead WHITE GUYS"...and which party still revere's the words of the Constitution 226 years later?
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Re: Proglodytes begging Obama to stage a coup
« Reply #23 on: September 20, 2013, 05:08:38 AM »
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5. Why do you think the founding fathers used the term all threats foreign and "DOMESTIC"

They were not the mental lightweights the tea party makes them out to be

Ah, the old dead white guys are just hunky phucking dory now, right?  Something tells me that the Republicans would not be the ones they would desire to have incarcerated.  Just a hunch, you understand....

Remind me which party looks at the Founders as "a bunch of dead WHITE GUYS"...and which party still revere's the words of the Constitution 226 years later?

 :hi5:  Great minds and all that...

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6. Veterans should remember that it was part of their enlistment oath.

"support and defend against all enemies foreign and DOMESTIC"

You probably should have read the Constitution, before you took the oath to defend it, Mr. DNC® operative.  But then, ...... you probably never took it.
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Re: Proglodytes begging Obama to stage a coup
« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2013, 07:44:29 AM »
DUmmies want pip daddy Obama to have a Cadillac coup deville.

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