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Trip - You and Yellowstone
« on: January 29, 2011, 12:47:46 PM »
In your "conversations" with others in the FC thread that you've been participating in of late, you have made repeated references to Yellowstone and have alluded to some sort of imminent "event".

The only thing of substantial issue I'm aware of at Yellowstone is the caldera and the possibility or even likelihood of a supervolcano occurring in the future. From earlier readings, I've gleaned that approximately every 750,000 years (give or take a few hundred thou), the supervolcano that lies under Yellowstone blows its stack, which has substantial impact on all manner of life on the planet.

I've reviewed this site which makes reference to an earthquake swarm that occurred last month, but does not in any way indicate any substantial "event".

Are you in a position to talk toward this? What kind of information might you have that outweighs or negates this, admittedly, government information that doesn't indicate a problem? Note the Current Volcano Alert Level is "Normal".


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Re: Trip - You and Yellowstone
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2011, 01:26:59 PM »
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Re: Trip - You and Yellowstone
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2011, 01:37:46 PM »
I'm interested in the Yellowstone earthquakes and "super volcano" as well.  I check the USGS site daily for earthquakes.  Only because I am more interested in the Frenchman Mountain fault line.

I noticed that graph in Trip's signature, but wasn't quite sure why he had it there.
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Re: Trip - You and Yellowstone
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2011, 01:44:27 PM »
In your "conversations" with others in the FC thread that you've been participating in of late, you have made repeated references to Yellowstone and have alluded to some sort of imminent "event".

The only thing of substantial issue I'm aware of at Yellowstone is the caldera and the possibility or even likelihood of a supervolcano occurring in the future. From earlier readings, I've gleaned that approximately every 750,000 years (give or take a few hundred thou), the supervolcano that lies under Yellowstone blows its stack, which has substantial impact on all manner of life on the planet.

I've reviewed this site which makes reference to an earthquake swarm that occurred last month, but does not in any way indicate any substantial "event".

Are you in a position to talk toward this? What kind of information might you have that outweighs or negates this, admittedly, government information that doesn't indicate a problem? Note the Current Volcano Alert Level is "Normal".



Sometime over the last couple of weeks I read or heard a short blurb about how Yellowstone seems to be getting more active and certain parts of Yellowstone has risen far more in the very recent past than it has over the last decade. Sometimes this is a precursor to an eruption event. However, some scientists have concluded that the small events stave off the big events. Face it, if Yellowstone has a massive event, it will be the end of the USA and possibly of all life on the Earth. I'm far enough South that I wouldn't be immediately impacted by a major event at Yellowstone, (that's what the maps show, anyways), BUT that doesn't preclude all of the dust that would be propelled into the upper atmosphere. That could do major damage to crops and turn the weather pretty chilly.
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Re: Trip - You and Yellowstone
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2011, 01:44:39 PM »
I'm interested in the Yellowstone earthquakes and "super volcano" as well.  I check the USGS site daily for earthquakes.  Only because I am more interested in the Frenchman Mountain fault line.

I noticed that graph in Trip's signature, but wasn't quite sure why he had it there.

I've watched the yellowstone special on Discovery a few times and it's a pretty bleak outlook if something were to happen.
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Re: Trip - You and Yellowstone
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2011, 01:54:54 PM »
I've watched the yellowstone special on Discovery a few times and it's a pretty bleak outlook if something were to happen.

Never saw any specials about it, just read things here and there online. 

Do libraries carry DVDs on such things? 
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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2011, 02:00:42 PM »
Never saw any specials about it, just read things here and there online. 

Do libraries carry DVDs on such things? 

I'm sure they would.  Try this summery of the show.

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Re: Trip - You and Yellowstone
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2011, 02:06:36 PM »
Trip's thread at Hannity

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*ALERT* Yellowstone Super volcano -- National Disaster Imminent.

This is not a drill.


In very recent days, the seismic activity of Yellowstone, America's supervolcano, has suddenly reached alarming levels.


The Evidence:


For the past week(s) numerous seismic sensors have shown seismic harmonics, but low level.

On the 25th of January, these seismic harmonics picked up and suddenly entered the realm of truly alarming.

Yellowstone-11jan25.jpg


In the above image, notice the harmonic "ringing" over the entire day. This is active evidence of "magma on the move" with the chambers actively filling.

There were also two quakes during the day:
2.2 at 04:51:04 UTC - depth 1 km, and
3.9 at 05:10:11 UTC - depth 0.1 km.

Other seismic signatures at distal sensors show evidence of remote dikes being filled by pressured induction.

Relevant Data:


University of Utah Yellowstone Seismic Graphs:
http://www.quake.utah.edu/helicorder/ytp_webi_1d.htm

Yellowstone Seismic Sensor Location Map:
http://www.seis.utah.edu/helicorder/yell_webi.htm

2004-2010 "Extraordinary Caldera Deformation Episode"
(geologic deformation map correlates to "Lake" in above Seismic Sensor Map)
http://volcanoes.usgs.gov/yvo/public...10/GRL2010.php

Other:
USGS "Live Internet Seismic Server"
http://aslwww.cr.usgs.gov/Seismic_Data/heli2.shtml

Additional Cause For Concern:

This morning I was in contact with a friend, who has regularly been in contact with a U of U geologist who is a close, personal and family friend of theirs, regarding the alarming upsurge at Yellowstone. Today, as a result of the new data, my contact did phone their close personal friend-geologist at U of U.

Instead of the normal discussion of the seismic data, he was greeted with a rather chilly response. "I can not discuss the current events going on over here".

To my own mind, this is strong evidence of an information lock-down by DHS to prevent panic.



Possibly Unrelated (and unconfirmed):

FEMA Requests Information on the Availability of 140 Million Packets of Food, Blankets, and Body Bags

140 Million is a very large portion of the American populace. Are we expecting a multi-pronged nuclear attack? Or perhaps more likely, "some" unprecedented natural disaster?


Disclaimer: There is every possibility that :IF: Yellowstone erupts, it will not be an explosive, supervolcano level event. However, there's no certainty as to that.

http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?p=86012281
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Re: Trip - You and Yellowstone
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2011, 02:08:14 PM »
I'm interested in the Yellowstone earthquakes and "super volcano" as well.  I check the USGS site daily for earthquakes.  Only because I am more interested in the Frenchman Mountain fault line.

I noticed that graph in Trip's signature, but wasn't quite sure why he had it there.

That wasn't in his sig line, but an attachment. I do that sometimes because I loathe having to get into photobucket and do all of that mundane stuff to get a pic posted.
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Re: Trip - You and Yellowstone
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2011, 02:16:45 PM »
That wasn't in his sig line, but an attachment. I do that sometimes because I loathe having to get into photobucket and do all of that mundane stuff to get a pic posted.

That's what I meant.  :)

I'm sure they would.  Try this summery of the show.

Discovery Channel

Thanks.  I'll look around.  I am on a website that had a 10 minute video up from a History Channel show on the super volcano.  I had no idea there were that many volcanoes there.  But it/they last erupted 2.1 million years ago.  I'm going to read some more.  That stuff is addicting.

Just correcting... I  misread the article.  It said the largest eruption ever was 2.1 million years ago.  And the last eruption was 640,000 years ago or so. 
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Re: Trip - You and Yellowstone
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2011, 02:30:59 PM »
That's what I meant.  :)

Thanks.  I'll look around.  I am on a website that had a 10 minute video up from a History Channel show on the super volcano.  I had no idea there were that many volcanoes there.  But it/they last erupted 2.1 million years ago.  I'm going to read some more.  That stuff is addicting.

Just correcting... I  misread the article.  It said the largest eruption ever was 2.1 million years ago.  And the last eruption was 640,000 years ago or so. 

And, according to many  scientists, we are overdue for another eruption. I can't remember the cycle they stated, but I THINK it was something like 632,000 years that Yellowstone was supposed to erupt. While I can't give much credence to their estimates, who knows??
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Re: Trip - You and Yellowstone
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2011, 02:33:51 PM »
And, according to many  scientists, we are overdue for another eruption. I can't remember the cycle they stated, but I THINK it was something like 632,000 years that Yellowstone was supposed to erupt. While I can't give much credence to their estimates, who knows??

But haven't scientists also said California is overdue for their next big massive earthquake?

It doesn't even matter.  There is no stopping the eruption of a volcano and no huge warnings either.  It's just going to happen.  Hopefully it doesn't happen in our lifetime.
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Re: Trip - You and Yellowstone
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2011, 02:35:26 PM »
The world is suppose to end in 2012... so maybe that's when the super volcano will erupt.   ;)
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Re: Trip - You and Yellowstone
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2011, 03:06:40 PM »
The world is suppose to end in 2012... so maybe that's when the super volcano will erupt.   ;)

LOL, ya never know !! But that doesn't fall in line with the Bible.
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« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2011, 03:02:57 PM »
Trip's thread at Hannity
http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?p=86012281

Considering how utterly wrong this joker has been about everything else he claims expertise, I think he would qualify as the Dick Morris of CC.
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« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2011, 03:32:03 PM »
Hopefully the Rainbow family and the democrats will be meeting at Yellowstone when it blows.
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Re: Trip - You and Yellowstone
« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2011, 12:16:51 AM »
Too bad that we didn't have a better idea of when it was going to blow. WE could set up a function for all of the DUmmies and schedule them to attend.
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Re: Trip - You and Yellowstone
« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2011, 09:01:26 AM »
Never saw any specials about it, just read things here and there online. 

Do libraries carry DVDs on such things?

There's a lot of youtubes out there to watch on this subject, I've been watching them since Trip did that post at Sean's board, interesting and scary as heck.
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« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2011, 03:00:29 PM »
In your "conversations" with others in the FC thread that you've been participating in of late, you have made repeated references to Yellowstone and have alluded to some sort of imminent "event".

The only thing of substantial issue I'm aware of at Yellowstone is the caldera and the possibility or even likelihood of a supervolcano occurring in the future. From earlier readings, I've gleaned that approximately every 750,000 years (give or take a few hundred thou), the supervolcano that lies under Yellowstone blows its stack, which has substantial impact on all manner of life on the planet.

I've reviewed this site which makes reference to an earthquake swarm that occurred last month, but does not in any way indicate any substantial "event".

Are you in a position to talk toward this? What kind of information might you have that outweighs or negates this, admittedly, government information that doesn't indicate a problem? Note the Current Volcano Alert Level is "Normal".



The key here is your recognition "that you're aware of". These events have not yet been publicly recognized by USGS nor U of Utah.

As of the 25th of January there were widespread signatures that are outside the norm  at Yellowstone and seen to extend well beyond the footprint of the park itself.

These most recent events are preceded by an extended period of extraordinary uplift, from 2004 to 2010 .

Ref: USGS "Yellowstone Extraordinary Caldera Deformation Episode"

Ref: Graphic-Seismic Events & Deformation at Yellowstone (2,000 in one month of uplift, which is more than in an average entire year!<1,500 avg>)

The events which followed this period of extraordinary uplift increased to a level they were clearly recognizable in seismic mechanics on January 25th.  And on this date this particular seismic signature, along with numerous other types, was seen inside the Yellowstone Park footprint and also outside it, sometimes at great distances away from the park. 

This disturbing seismic signature is known as "Harmonic tremors" and represents magma rushing to the surface through constricted pathways in cracks, fissures and faults, at such a rate that it exhibits a repeated harmonic wave signature.

Because of the nature of the event involving magma rushing to the surface through constricted pathways, harmonic tremors are invariably recognized as evidence seen immediately preceding or during an active volcanic eruption.

These harmonic wave signatures, harmonic tremors,  are seen in the image below as cigar-shaped 'packets' of seismic wave that are repeated throughout the day's seismogram.

Yellowstone YJC "Joseph's Coat" Jan 25th Seismogram

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« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2011, 03:29:06 PM »
Considering how utterly wrong this joker has been about everything else he claims expertise, I think he would qualify as the Dick Morris of CC.


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« Reply #20 on: February 01, 2011, 03:32:59 PM »
So, the Government has really no measures in place to counteract a possible catastrophic natural event if it were to ever take place? there's no way to contain something like a volcanic eruption?
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« Reply #21 on: February 01, 2011, 03:36:44 PM »
So, the Government has really no measures in place to counteract a possible catastrophic natural event if it were to ever take place? there's no way to contain something like a volcanic eruption?

If we had some sort of enormous "snuffer", as is used for candles, that might work.  However Yellowstone caldera is so big that even in a plane one cannot see from one side of the caldera to the other.

And throwing an atomic bomb at it, is sort of like trying to use an atomic bomb to stop a far bigger atomic bomb with a hair trigger.




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« Reply #22 on: February 01, 2011, 03:39:01 PM »
So, the Government has really no measures in place to counteract a possible catastrophic natural event if it were to ever take place? there's no way to contain something like a volcanic eruption?

Other than duck and cover?  No.  There is no containment of any type of natural disaster.  

There's barely containment of regular, every day nature.  Many, many years spent at sea has taught me just how insignificant we really are.

I don't know much, but this much I have learned:  If the caldera under Yellowstone goes up, it'll likely be the last thing that many people will see.
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« Reply #23 on: February 01, 2011, 03:42:25 PM »
Other than duck and cover?  No.  There is no containment of any type of natural disaster.  

There's barely containment of regular, every day nature.  Many, many years spent at sea has taught me just how insignificant we really are.

I don't know much, but this much I have learned:  If the caldera under Yellowstone goes up, it'll likely be the last thing that many people will see.

Yellowstone is the old caldera(s), two actually.

And given the evidences at hand, the current (subsurface) caldera is far outside the boundaries of the total of the previous two calderas, and well outside of the entirety of Yellowstone Park itself.



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« Reply #24 on: February 01, 2011, 03:43:42 PM »
That's what's so scary, that it could be the end of civilization, this would have worldwide effects.
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