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Obama is losing a battle he doesn't know he's in
« on: January 04, 2009, 03:53:20 PM »
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Barack Obama's chances of making a fresh start in US relations with the Muslim world, and the Middle East in particular, appear to diminish with each new wave of Israeli attacks on Palestinian targets in Gaza. That seems hardly fair, given the president-elect does not take office until January 20. But foreign wars don't wait for Washington inaugurations.

Obama has remained wholly silent during the Gaza crisis. His aides say he is following established protocol that the US has only one president at a time. Hillary Clinton, his designated secretary of state, and Joe Biden, the vice-president-elect and foreign policy expert, have also been uncharacteristically taciturn on the subject.

But evidence is mounting that Obama is already losing ground among key Arab and Muslim audiences that cannot understand why, given his promise of change, he has not spoken out. Arab commentators and editorialists say there is growing disappointment at Obama's detachment - and that his failure to distance himself from George Bush's strongly pro-Israeli stance is encouraging the belief that he either shares Bush's bias or simply does not care.

The Al-Jazeera satellite television station recently broadcast footage of Obama on holiday in Hawaii, wearing shorts and playing golf, juxtaposed with scenes of bloodshed and mayhem in Gaza. Its report criticising "the deafening silence from the Obama team" suggested Obama is losing a battle of perceptions among Muslims that he may not realise has even begun.
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Re: Obama is losing a battle he doesn't know he's in
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2009, 04:50:37 PM »
Surely, if Obama just sits down with the towel heads over tea, the crisis will be resolved. Obama promised us this was possible when he was campaigning. I find it very hard to believe that The One would lie to us like this.

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Re: Obama is losing a battle he doesn't know he's in
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2009, 07:06:09 PM »
Where is M. Moore ? Shouldn't he be putting together a 'watch this shot' style montage ?  Hello ? Bueller ?

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Re: Obama is losing a battle he doesn't know he's in
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2009, 09:34:00 PM »
There is no positive for the arabs to have the zero seen as a friend of theirs.  But it is beneficial to have his sorry ass in the oval office relative to McCain.  But every American president will be a crusader, thats just a given.
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Re: Obama is losing a battle he doesn't know he's in
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2009, 11:37:17 AM »
The liberals loved to claim that when 9/11 was happening, President Bush just sat in that Florida classroom and did nothing.

So where are they now when Obama was on vacation while Gaza burned?

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Re: Obama is losing a battle he doesn't know he's in
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2009, 06:14:17 PM »
To be fair, I don't want him to say anything right now.
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Re: Obama is losing a battle he doesn't know he's in
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2009, 06:22:32 PM »
To be fair, I don't want him to say anything right now.

He is a painfully stupid man -- his handlers will provide him with the words when needed.  Other than that, the standard "uh uh uh" will no doubt be what we get.
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Re: Obama is losing a battle he doesn't know he's in
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2009, 09:01:09 AM »
He is a painfully stupid man -- his handlers will provide him with the words when needed.  Other than that, the standard "uh uh uh" will no doubt be what we get.


I can't agree that he is stupid, he is however extremely ignorant about US foreign policy and has a certain 'Arrogance of ignorance' in that he knows he dare not demonstrate that ignorance too openly, but must instead appear to be decisive and visionary, which could well lead to disastrous courses of action in pursuit of that appearance.  Above and beyond ignorance, which would be curable give the right advice (as opposed to the kind he'll actually get), his biggest problem is not intelligence but his fundamental personality, which is that of a dithering  intellectual who does not like to commit to a definite course of action until well after the outcome has become entirely predictable.  This core personality trait means he is extremely out of his comfort zone when making decisions in conditions of uncertainty and will over-intellectualize and over-analyze the decisions he does have to make.   
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Re: Obama is losing a battle he doesn't know he's in
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2009, 10:27:29 AM »
Some talking head on one of the Fox shows yesterday said that whether anyone will admit to it....the US essentially has 2 presidents right now.

President Bush is taking care of what's going on in the mid east....Iraq, A-stan, P-stan, India, and now the Gaza/Israeli mess.

Whereas Obama has seemingly taken over the economic situation.

If you think about it....Obama is very visible with talking about what he's going to do with the economy, but is basically silent regarding anything in the mid east.
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Re: Obama is losing a battle he doesn't know he's in
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2009, 10:58:26 AM »
I can't agree that he is stupid, he is however extremely ignorant about US foreign policy and has a certain 'Arrogance of ignorance' in that he knows he dare not demonstrate that ignorance too openly, but must instead appear to be decisive and visionary, which could well lead to disastrous courses of action in pursuit of that appearance.  Above and beyond ignorance, which would be curable give the right advice (as opposed to the kind he'll actually get), his biggest problem is not intelligence but his fundamental personality, which is that of a dithering  intellectual who does not like to commit to a definite course of action until well after the outcome has become entirely predictable.  This core personality trait means he is extremely out of his comfort zone when making decisions in conditions of uncertainty and will over-intellectualize and over-analyze the decisions he does have to make.   

Excellent analysis.  :cheersmate:

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Re: Obama is losing a battle he doesn't know he's in
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2009, 11:35:16 AM »
Some talking head on one of the Fox shows yesterday said that whether anyone will admit to it....the US essentially has 2 presidents right now.

President Bush is taking care of what's going on in the mid east....Iraq, A-stan, P-stan, India, and now the Gaza/Israeli mess.

Whereas Obama has seemingly taken over the economic situation.

If you think about it....Obama is very visible with talking about what he's going to do with the economy, but is basically silent regarding anything in the mid east.

i was thinking that same thought yesterday when he was talking about his "stimulus package" nationalization of vital industry plan.  he certainly doesn't seem to want to let there be "one president at a time" on the economy...

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Re: Obama is losing a battle he doesn't know he's in
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2009, 11:37:27 AM »
Excellent analysis.  :cheersmate:

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Re: Obama is losing a battle he doesn't know he's in
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2009, 12:19:29 PM »
I can't agree that he is stupid, he is however extremely ignorant about US foreign policy and has a certain 'Arrogance of ignorance' in that he knows he dare not demonstrate that ignorance too openly, but must instead appear to be decisive and visionary, which could well lead to disastrous courses of action in pursuit of that appearance.  Above and beyond ignorance, which would be curable give the right advice (as opposed to the kind he'll actually get), his biggest problem is not intelligence but his fundamental personality, which is that of a dithering  intellectual who does not like to commit to a definite course of action until well after the outcome has become entirely predictable.  This core personality trait means he is extremely out of his comfort zone when making decisions in conditions of uncertainty and will over-intellectualize and over-analyze the decisions he does have to make.   

What I find interesting is that during the elections this is exactly the man I saw. This may also explain why the Libtards were/are in love with his "persona", he is like them.
When listening to the BarakStar!!!! today, I find that he is sounding more and more "wooden" on a daily basis.

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Re: Obama is losing a battle he doesn't know he's in
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2009, 02:17:02 PM »
I can't agree that he is stupid, he is however extremely ignorant about US foreign policy and has a certain 'Arrogance of ignorance' in that he knows he dare not demonstrate that ignorance too openly, but must instead appear to be decisive and visionary, which could well lead to disastrous courses of action in pursuit of that appearance.  Above and beyond ignorance, which would be curable give the right advice (as opposed to the kind he'll actually get), his biggest problem is not intelligence but his fundamental personality, which is that of a dithering  intellectual who does not like to commit to a definite course of action until well after the outcome has become entirely predictable.  This core personality trait means he is extremely out of his comfort zone when making decisions in conditions of uncertainty and will over-intellectualize and over-analyze the decisions he does have to make.   

He may be street smart, but he is an intellectual lightweight.  His only ability is the ability to read a teleprompter.  He is basically a dark-skinned Ted Knight.
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Re: Obama is losing a battle he doesn't know he's in
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2009, 01:31:55 PM »
And today there's Iranians burning his picture in Teheran . . .
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Re: Obama is losing a battle he doesn't know he's in
« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2009, 09:36:46 PM »
I have to disagree with the majority here.  I believe he is indeed stupid.  His ideas/speeches are someone else's and well-prepared.   I believe the scariest day of his life will be Day 1 in the Oval Office.
His entourage will be running the country these next 4 years.  He is too young and inexperienced to make any of the "important" decisions.  He was the perfect puppet...the first black president.
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Re: Obama is losing a battle he doesn't know he's in
« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2009, 09:39:48 PM »
I have to disagree with the majority here.  I believe he is indeed stupid.  His ideas/speeches are someone else's and well-prepared.   I believe the scariest day of his life will be Day 1 in the Oval Office.
His entourage will be running the country these next 4 years.  He is too young and inexperienced to make any of the "important" decisions.  He was the perfect puppet...the first black president.

Sorry...  But he is the 1st 1/2 white President.  His mommy was a white chick.
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Re: Obama is losing a battle he doesn't know he's in
« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2009, 10:10:44 PM »
I have to disagree with the majority here.  I believe he is indeed stupid.  His ideas/speeches are someone else's and well-prepared.   I believe the scariest day of his life will be Day 1 in the Oval Office.
His entourage will be running the country these next 4 years.  He is too young and inexperienced to make any of the "important" decisions.  He was the perfect puppet...the first black president.
I think he is stupid too.  I mean, a smart person realizes they are ignorant on some issues and if they are important issues, they educate themselves.

Obama is paralyzed because his left foot is standing square on his right foot and he doesn't seem to realize it.
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Re: Obama is losing a battle he doesn't know he's in
« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2009, 11:30:38 AM »
Sorry...  But he is the 1st 1/2 white President.  His mommy was a white chick.

I know but he considers himself black, he looks black, his wife and kids are black.  He may be a mulatto but he ran as the first black president.
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Re: Obama is losing a battle he doesn't know he's in
« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2009, 11:54:45 AM »
I know but he considers himself black, he looks black, his wife and kids are black.  He may be a mulatto but he ran as the first black president.

And Halle Berry ran as the 1st black actress to win an Oscar, even though she's mixed and her black father abandoned her white mother leaving her to raise her alone.

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Re: Obama is losing a battle he doesn't know he's in
« Reply #20 on: January 15, 2009, 05:59:18 PM »
I know but he considers himself black, he looks black, his wife and kids are black.  He may be a mulatto but he ran as the first black president.

Merely one more thing that he has lied about.
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Re: Obama is losing a battle he doesn't know he's in
« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2009, 06:07:15 PM »
Barack Obama:  America's first Affirmative Action president :loser:
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Recession:  When your neighbor looses his job.
Depression:  When you loose your job.
Recovery:  When Obama looses HIS job.
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Re: Obama is losing a battle he doesn't know he's in
« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2009, 06:09:42 PM »
Barack Obama:  America's first Affirmative Action president :loser:

OK.  I gotta give you a H5 for that one.

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Re: Obama is losing a battle he doesn't know he's in
« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2009, 06:27:45 PM »
Thanks.  I've posted on FR for a few years already.... :-)

I also know what TANSTAAFL stand for, too :naughty:
Murphy's 3rd Law:  "You can't make anything 'idiot DUmmie proof'.  The world will just create a better idiot DUmmie."

Economic Lession #1:
Recession:  When your neighbor looses his job.
Depression:  When you loose your job.
Recovery:  When Obama looses HIS job.
(Recovery has been postponed until 2016)

Global warming supporters believe that a few hundred million tons of CO2 has more control over our climate than a million mile in diameter, unshielded thermo-nuclear fusion reactor at the middle of the solar system.

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Re: Obama is losing a battle he doesn't know he's in
« Reply #24 on: January 15, 2009, 06:45:44 PM »
Thanks.  I've posted on FR for a few years already.... :-)

I also know what TANSTAAFL stand for, too :naughty:

The occassion FReeper "knows stuff".

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